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  • Just wanted to get your attention. :-)

    What I really wanted to say is that whether or not global warming is caused by man, I don't believe that any of these measures to have "green" energy are worth anything. We'd do a lot better to put our efforts into nuclear power, or researching better advances in power than the same old "green" technologies that aren't poised to really solve anything, except maybe guilty consciences. ;)
    • The trouble with nuclear power is that it isn't a renewable resource either.

      At some point, we are fundamentally limited by the total solar radiation hitting the planet.

      These wind power initiatives generate genuine long term results, they do it immediately, they can be developed incrementally with low lead time, have none of the safety issues, use almost no land (since you can continue to use them as farm land in the NZ example), have no waste products whatsoever, don't require any water for steam, and since
      • The trouble with nuclear power is that it isn't a renewable resource either.

        It doesn't need to be. It will last us a very long time.

        These wind power initiatives generate genuine long term results, they do it immediately, they can be developed incrementally with low lead time ....

        And they provide only a fraction of the energy that other methods produce, and while they take up "almost no land" they WOULD have to take up a TON of land in order to provide the same level of output. I am not against wind power, but it's only a supplemental solution.

        That doesn't make them necesarily useful as base load generators, but that could be where something like the solar tower power stations (assuming they end up working properly, and I promise to send photos once the one here gets built) could come in.

        Right. But that is the future. Nuclear is here now.

        As things stand now, all the world's wind projects combined generate 60 gigawatts (2005), projected to double to 120 gigawatts by 2010.

        So right now, it could power two New York Cities. Except on really hot days.

        Anyway, my point was not that the things you were talking about are not worth anything; my emphasis was on the "green" nature of them. Reducing carbon, carbon trading, that sort of thing. Wind and hydro and maybe even solar are good things to help supplement our energy needs moving forward, but because they provide energy, not because they are green.