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  • Yeah, homeschooling is one of those odd things where both the extreme left and extreme right have a tendency to have common resources and goals. One of my left-ish friends homeschooled his kids, and had lots of conversations with right-ish homeschoolers as well. Interesting.
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    • This is one of the things I really like about homeschooling. There are so many different points of view. As long as all subscribe to the fundamental mantra of homeschooling, in my mind, "Parents are the best judge of how to raise and educate their own children," I appreciate what they are doing and love looking at the diversity for cross-pollination of ideas.

      Somewhere I read somebody saying the tree-huggers (or some similar offensive term for leftist environmentalists) paved the way, the religious funda

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      • Parents are the best judge of how to raise and educate their own children

        And... everyone is above average [freep.com] too.

        On a more serious note, being the best judge of how to do it (which I don't agree with... but let's just pretend for a moment) still doesn't make you the most capable person of doing it.

        I personally will be home schooling my kids... every day after they get home from school. I will add to their learning experience.

        Not shield them from it.

        It seems to me that this is the real purpose for many po
        • On a more serious note, being the best judge of how to do it (which I don't agree with... but let's just pretend for a moment) still doesn't make you the most capable person of doing it.

          Exactly. Which is why, if you'll look at other comments I've made, you'll see that I insist that homeschooling is not for everybody. It is up to the parents to decide what is best for their children, and act accordingly.

          For example, my wife was homeschooled, and her parents and some other homeschooling parents got to

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          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
          • Way to not read what I said. My whole point was that of these four families involved in homeschooling, not a one of them was doing it to "shield" or "shelter" their children.

            I did read what you said. (Understanding... well that is a different matter.)

            I also tried to write my response in such a way as to not imply I was talking about you or your situation in particular. Looks like I failed.

            The only part about you specifically I was referring to was the quoted comment, which I saw you commented about else
            • I also tried to write my response in such a way as to not imply I was talking about you or your situation in particular. Looks like I failed.

              I understand that. I'm just saying that you seemed to be generalizing that shielding kids is often or usually the reason for homeschooling kids ... the whole point of my journal entry was that that is changing.

              But, the other point I was trying to make is that I don't see how replacing an educational experience is better than augmenting the experience.

              Er, well, if you augment too much, you run into the fact that there are only 24 hours in the day. I deal with that problem as an adult, but I'd rather my kids not have to deal with it until they are approaching adulthood.

              Kids get different educational experiences in different public schools. Would you question a parent who moved a kid from one school to another for replacing the educational experience instead of augmenting it?

              That is the part I don't get. It always seems to be couched as an either / or situation, when I personally believe it should be both.

              You mean both for one family, or both for everybody? I agree everybody ought to have both options. I don't agree that a kid absolutely must receive both public schooling and attention at home. Attention at home and schooling at home will suffice for our family.

              I think public education in regards to home schooling is the same way. If the families would spend as much time after school with their kids when they are in public school, as they do after they remove them from public school, then they wouldn't need to remove them from public school to begin with.

              Of course, this is all generalization... every bit of it.

              I'm taking note of the fact that you're aware this is generalization. There are a lot of different reasons for homeschooling. One that seems to be popular among geeks is to prevent kids from getting bullied in school. That's not always something more attention at home can correct. Then there's differing educational standards, differing values standards (not just religious ... schooling because you don't want your kids forcefed politics of either the left or right persuasions seems to be increasingly popular), etc. More attention at home remedies some of the problems for which you believe some people homeschool, but it doesn't address all issues. Public school + more attention at home (lots of attention at home would be a given , not an add-on, in my family if our kids were going to be publicly schooled) does not address the reasons for which we want to homeschool.

              I think you and I would agree that parental involvement makes the difference in any child's education, whether public, private, or homeschooled. I have felt this way for more than a decade before I ever even considered homeschooling.

              Or, would you contend that there is no such thing as a bad parent? And, no parent is unfit? In the ideal world, these things would be true. Where I live, it isn't.

              I'm saying that the existence of some bad parents does not justify presumption of the right to interfere with parental decisions in general. In our legal system, we are innocent until proved guilty. Unless evidence to the contrary can be presented, a family's choices should be untouchable.

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              J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
              • Would you question a parent who moved a kid from one school to another for replacing the educational experience instead of augmenting it?

                No. (To answer your question.)

                I wouldn't even question a parent that home schools... hell, someone has to work for my kid. ;-)

                But, I also don't consider moving a kid from one school to another to be the same as removing a kid from school to home school instead. (My first reaction would probably be to move from a public school to a private school.)

                The reason I don't co