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  • Art vs. Commmerce (Score:2)

    by ziggy (25) on 2003.06.30 8:32 (#21561) Journal
    Anyway, I am SOOOOOOOOOO glad that I didn't pay even a penny for this steaming pile of crap!
    That sentiment is pretty common. Not about the new Metallica album in particular, but about the state of the entertainment industry in general.

    The New York Times wrote about that [nytimes.com] this weekend. For all of the hew and cry that people are killing the music industry with p2p because no one wants to pay for "entertainment" anymore, the new Harry Potter book sells 5M copies in the US its first day on sale.

    Why? Because people are still willing to buy music (and books, and movie tickets and ....) if it's worth paying for!

    Case in point: I got to see The Matrix Reloaded at YAPC for a steep discount, and I still want my $8 back. ;-)

    • $8 is a steeply discounted price? I guess I haven't been to the movies in a long time...
      • No. The steeply discounted price was free, but I still want my $8 back. The movie was that bad. The only redeeming feature were the other 99 perlfolk sniping at the film:
        The Architect: Denial is the most predictable of human responses.

        The Audience: No, it isn't!

    • Why? Because people are still willing to buy music (and books, and movie tickets and ....) if it's worth paying for!

      So true. If only record labels and movie makers in particular would wake up to that fact.

      I actually bought the Metallica CD, mainly because of the limited edition DVD accompanyment. Anyone even thinking the same as I, please don't bother. You are setting yourself up for extreme disappointment. The Linkin Park CD&DVD edition of Meteora on the hand is well worth the extra £3 i

      • Why? Because people are still willing to buy music (and books, and movie tickets and ....) if it's worth paying for!

        This is the classic justification.. usually sounds something like this -- "I download it, and if I like it then I go buy it."; let's face it, for the majority of downloaders this is a crock and not what happens. They download and keep on listening, never buying.

        The other lame justification I detest is, "Well I couldn't afford it -- so I never would have bought whether I could download it o

      • metallica sold out its show in 22 minutes. what has linkin park done that? Pry Not! It just goes to show you that more and more people are buying into the pop propaganda that linkin park promotes.
      • The New York Times wrote about that [nytimes.com] this weekend. For all of the hew and cry that people are killing the music industry with p2p because no one wants to pay for "entertainment" anymore, the new Harry Potter book sells 5M copies in the US its first day on sale.

      Good point. I bet you can find the new Harry Potter on-line somewhere, if you didn't want to pay for it, but so many people are buying it...

      As much as I hate to support the blood-sucking Record Companies, I have to say that I've not

      • As much as I hate to support the blood-sucking Record Companies, I have to say that I've not been disappointed in one recent purchase. I like Annie Lenox's Bare.

        Hell, I rebought _Black Celebration_ recently because I couldn't locate my long-ago legitimately purchased copy. (I spent maybe half an hour trying to figure out if the whole album was downloadable, but I also remembered that my liner notes and case had been destroyed. I actually felt like buying it again.)

        I considered it a well-spent 12 and c

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        • Damn good album. Any album that has 'Fly On The Windscreen', 'Stripped' and 'New Dress' *has* to be good in my book. Not quite the best album DM ever did as I think Violator is *slightly* better but Black Celebration is an extremely good album nonetheless :-)
          • I was actually looking at _Violator_ just before I decided to pick up _Celebration_ again. The decision hinged on something an old friend of mine told me years ago, that DM's style had varied significantly at times.

            Or, I'm on crack, and that's not what they told me. Any comparisons in terms of style/speed/etc. that would be pertinent in me deciding whether or not to buy _Violator_?

            I don't have a problem supporting Depeche Mode. :D

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            • Just get both of them :-)

              I suppose Black Celebration is a little 'darker' than Violator but at the end of the day you won't be disappointed with either.
              • Violator is hardly a "Poor" album, but it is the most commercial of all their albums. It is not entirely that they changed their style to pander to a wider audience, at least some of the popularity can be attributed to the audience coming in-line for a brief period.

                "Black Celebration" is an album I feel is better, "Construction Time Again" is very good as well. ( all opinions my own ).

                A good purchase I have enjoyed was "Singles 81-85" for their original stuff.
                • The 'Singles 81-85' album was actually the first DM album I bought. "Shake The Disease" and "It's Called A Heart" had recently been on the charts (in the UK anyway) so I bought the album because I liked those two songs. From there I realized that I liked *all* the songs the album and then proceeded to buy everything DM ever did. Blimey, can't believe that was 18 years ago - where does the time go?
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