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  • Yet another reason why non-merkins find the statement that America is the land of the free so ludicous. While America is not the only country guilty of this, there seems to be a heighten emphasis in the last few years (even before September 2001) to detain anyone who might have anti government ideals or not of American birth.

    I follow various commentaries of protesters on a couple of underground networks, and some of them have some horrific stories. A protest last year involving many families (including ki

    • Yet another reason why non-merkins find the statement that America is the land of the free so ludicous.

      Furriners can find whatever they like ludicrous, but they should realize that while America has its problems, it consistently stands up for freedom in the world. Sometimes it takes awhile, but this sort of thing, while apparently appalling ("apparently" because I can't accept one side of the story without hearing the other), is nothing new. When the Union was not yet out of puberty, we were jailing peo
      • I personally find the statement ludicrous, because there have been far too many instances where the right to free speech and basic freedom, have been taken away. Not just by governments, but also by culture. My observations of these cases has increased, whether that means there are more or just the fact more are being reported I don't know. I suspect the fact the they can now be reported quicker and more widely is a big factor. I wasn't intentionally hiding behind hyperbole, I was just stating how I saw the
        • I wasn't intentionally hiding behind hyperbole, I was just stating how I saw the situation.

          So you really think that there is an emphasis to detain ANYONE who MIGHT have anti-government ideals, or is not of American birth? You really see the situation that way, you were not using hyperbole? If so, then your perception is so skewed it is useless.

          There are many countries who stand up for freedom, thats why we have a United Nations.

          That sentence makes no sense. The UN is primarily about peace, not freedom. The two are not even remotely related in any direct way. The UN has as one of its minor goals to promote freedom, but these goals are clearly secondary. Note that the only decisions the UN is capable of making that are binding on member nations are issues of security (via the Security Council), not issues of freedom.

          My reply was regarding the situation gnat was highlighting. Yours is a rant against me about war.

          If you want to rant about war, I suggest you do it elsewhere and not at my expense.

          What gnat was "highlighting" is entirely tied to war. You might as well post about XS and then complain that I responded about Perl. They are irretreivably intertwined, like it or not.

          And I could not possibly care less whether you want me to rant at you or not. You ranted, and I responded. You have no right to not be ranted at when you rant first. Get over yourself.