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  • And if you are going to say something have the courage to put a name to your spite.

    I heckled him because he was wrong, so wrong that it wasn't possible for me not to. For all I know, this person is you. I wrote much of and keep the CPAN and search.cpan FAQs, I run the box, I keep it running, and we answer and address feedback as time and patience allow. When some guy starts bitching about how 'this page has no links' or 'this has no FAQ', etc. when that person hasn't sent email to said effect, he's lucky

    • Hmmm. Nice to know people actually read other people's journals.

      >if you are going to say something have the courage to put a name to your spite.

      Apologies. I was about 80% sure that it was you, but not 100%. It seemed that I would do a disservice by reprimanding the wrong person. Plus, it wasn't the name that mattered, it was the lack of respect shown by the behavior that seemed out of place.

      >I heckled him because he was wrong

      Well, I would have to disagree with you here. I thought his
      • Well, I would have to disagree with you here. I thought his comments on the usability of CPAN were quite well thought-out. Everyone (with whom I have ever spoken) agrees that CPAN is a fantastic resource. (And kudos to those like yourself who maintain it.) But, I share Mr. Crawford's concern that things could be laid out in a more intuitive manner. (David Crawford, by the way, is the guy whose talk you interrupted.)

        I'm sorry, you appear to have missed the part where search.cpan is not CPAN. There are 3

        • >search.cpan is not CPAN

          My apologies for not acknowledging that in my earlier post. You are absolutely right, and that never crossed my mind until you mentioned it. So what?

          >However, just because some guy gets a microphone
          >is not a right to waste 300 peoples' time
          >heckle-free

          Here's the problem with that line of thinking -- just because you thought that the presentation was a waste of time, doesn't mean that I thought that the presentation was a waste of time. If you thought that your time was being wasted, why didn't you slip out the back door for 5 minutes and check your email? None of the attendees were forced to be there -- they understood that the lightning talks might be of varying quality, and that they might touch on subjects that didn't interest them. Don't forget that 300 people spent 5 minutes singing "banana fanna". His was a serious critique, whether or not you think that the critique was on target.

          > a picture [cpan.org] outlines everything he complained about

          But his talk wasn't entitled "CPAN is non-functional". His point wasn't that a download was unavailable, it was that someone unfamiliar with the layout might not know how to begin a download.

          >considering how few people actually thank
          >those of us who have kept this resource online
          >for the last 3 years

          If you're not getting enough appreciation for the work that you do, then I regret that. CPAN rocks, and everyone (including Mr. Crawford) would agree with that. But there is a valid role for people within the community who are willing to critique the usability of the service.