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  • Java loses when you compare it to Smalltalk, Lisp, or anything else even remotely decent. Java wins when you compare it to C++, at least until you try to mix Java generics with Java closures, in which case you have to use trigraphs in your STL templates to match the level of ugliness.

    • Actually, with compile-as-you-code tools like Eclipse, I've found that the compile+run portion of the edit-test-fix-test loop in Java represents a similar amount of time as the compile+run portion of a similar loop in Perl.

      That said, the actual coding time usually compares disfavorably to higher-level languages like Perl in my personal experience.

      • It probably seems faster because actual editing in Eclipse is so slow.

        • Really? It's slow to start up, but after that it doesn't seem slow at all to me. All of the slow parts (indexing, compiling, SCM synchronization) happens in a background thread and does not interfere with editing. It's the most productive programming environment I've ever encountered. Honestly, the Perl 6 feature I'm most looking forward to is its improved parsability so maybe a really great Eclipse plugin will be possible (no offense intended toward the EPIC plugin, which tries to provide Perl 5 suppor

          • It's complaining about all the wrong things and ignoring the overwhelming value of the tool.

            I'm sure there's tremendous amount of value in the tool. I'm only starting to use it for serious things, and I can't seem to get anything done quickly. It feels like the programming equivalent of Mac OS X, where people who know what they're doing have to wear oven mitts to slow them down and let them enjoy the aesthetics, except without the aesthetics.

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