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  • Those who don't take reality into account make up laws instead and then kick people in the head for not following them
    • I'll put you on the "pro" side of literal tabs in Makefiles then, and five years of completely broken Scalar::Util in ActivePerl.

      • How is Scalar::Util broken in ActivePerl it is (at least supposed to be) the same as in core Perl.
        • As I understand it, it doesn't include (all of?) the XS components of the module, making reftype() unavailable for the ActivePerl 5.8.x releases.

          The explanation I heard (and I don't remember where, though I'm pretty sure it wasn't from you) is that one goal of the ActivePerl releases for 5.8.x was to maintain binary compatibility back to 5.8.0, and thus there would be no reftype() available for Scalar::Util.

          When I last looked at which of my distributions failed in the AS build and test farm, most of the

          • You are mixing 2 different issues:

            ActivePerl contains the same or a later version of Scalar::Utils as the corresponding core release. ActivePerl should always contain a superset of the functionality of the corresponding core release; everything else would be a bug. In the spirit of the Artistic License, ActivePerl is a "Standard Version" of Perl.

            The PPM build farm however does run with very old distributions for backwards compatibility, as the generated modules must work on any released version of ActivePerl.

            I did a quick check, and even ActivePerl 5.8.0.806 contains Scalar::Util::reftype(), so I'm wondering why this isn't available on the build farm (the machines are supposed to be using build 806).

            Just for reference, ActivePerl 5.8.0.806 contains Scalar::Utils version 1.07 and ActivePerl 5.8.8.820 contains Scalar::Utils 1.18.