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• What we need *now*... (Score:1)

  by nxadm (8942)

  I would love to see the birth of Perl 6 as the next guy, but I think that a few additions to Perl 5 would make a love of people -including newcomers- very happy:

  - We need a proper full blown Object Oriented framework. I don't care if it looks like java or ruby as long as it is standard (remember, we are catching up on this part).
  If it's too hard to implement in perl core, deliver it as a Module (Moose should be a candidate to deliver something fast) and include it in the *Standard* distribution so everyone
  • Re: (Score:1)

    by spx2 (8512)

    This is not new nxadm , I have tried to report this here about 3 months ago http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=710860 [perlmonks.org] . Frankly ... perl's built in OO is a joke and Moose is not far. Perl is old,it still has dollar signs attached to variables,it has weird built-in variables with weird meanings and weird behaviour.
    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Ovid (2709)

      Actually, quite a number of languages have sigils attached to variables. Function and variable names cannot clash in Perl. The weird "built-in variables" are an annoyance mainly because they have global scope. And I fail to see how "Moose" is a joke, though you're spot on about Perl's built-in OO.
      • Re: (Score:1)

        by spx2 (8512)

        there is no real book about Moose around,there are just some docs thrown around here and there and totally disorganised...it feels like an improvisation. I get that clumsy feeling whenever I approach it...
        • Talk about FUD (Score:1)

          by perigrin (3495)

          In addition to the documentation we have now (which Dave Rolsky has a grant request in to improve), there was a talk at every major conference and workshop last year, there will be one at each of the next two workshops (Perl Oasis, Frozen Perl), and all of these notes and slides are available. There are over a hundred modules on CPAN that depend upon Moose, several thousand tests of various complexity (some show entire ORM sketches), and a hundred plus developers on the IRC channel who are willing to help o
          • Re:Talk about FUD (Score:1)

            by spx2 (8512) on 2008.12.03 23:20 (#66176)

            In short : I don't care what your living costs are or what the costs you believe writing a book are.

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            • Re: (Score:1)

              by chromatic (983)

              Berating volunteers who've already done a tremendous amount of work, for free, for not doing more, for free, is rude.
            • Re: (Score:1)

              by perigrin (3495)

              In short: then you don't care about a book. Go jump in a lake.