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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • You can say you're working on perl6 all you want, and put out stable parrot releases, but they're not stable releases of "perl 6" until you can go to perl.com and when you click "download" it gives you something other than 5.10.

    *I* know perl6 is progressing, and *you* know perl6 is progressing, and other folks around here know it's progressing, and perhaps it's even usable day-to-day right now, but it's not perceived as "there, we're ready to have regular users use this, and we declare it perl 6.0" until

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    • ... they're not stable releases of "perl 6" until you can go to perl.com and when you click "download" it gives you something other than 5.10.

      Fun fact: I edited the Perl.com Downloads [perl.com] page sometime around December 2007 to include information on how to download and build monthly Rakudo releases with the perl6 binary that Jerry and I made work.

      Release-early-release-often is good for development....

      Silly me. I thought it was also good for demonstrating that the software does actually exist -- you know, because hundreds of millions of people can actually try it for themselves. No one claims that it's finished. Plenty of people claim that it doesn't exist and never will exist. I believe that the facts are not on their side.

      • include information on how to download and build monthly Rakudo release

        Sure, and right now, it says it's an "in-development" version for "experimentation and testing." Not exactly saying "we're want testers!"

        I'm not saying there isn't progress, I'm saying that people won't treat it as "real" until, as Alias said, people say "here's perl 6.0 alpha 1" and many folks won't really start evaluating it for their own uses until it at least says "beta 1" on the announcements.

        Until then, it just looks like a development in-progress that isn't ready for a wider audience yet.

        I know you

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