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• Good condom information (Score:1)

  by jordan (120)

  While condoms are 90%, according to the World Health Organization, against AID transmission, they are completely ineffective [family.org] against the transmission of HPV. HPV is thought to be almost entirely responsible for cervical cancer. More women die of cervical cancer in the US than die from AIDS every year.

  Condoms are also ineffective against Herpes transmission.

  Now, tell me again why we should be promoting practices that only protect you 90% of the time from AIDS transmission and are completely ineffective a
  • Re:Good condom information (Score:1)

    by chaoticset (2105) on 2003.12.22 14:50 (#26768) Homepage Journal

    HPV -- Human Papilloma Virus? Warts?

    You do understand that there are strains of HPV that can cause actual warts anywhere, right? And that something like 80% of sexually active humans are estimated to have had contact with it at some point, right? So the only 100% effective way for a human being to avoid contact with HPV is to avoid contact with other human beings, period.

    Cervical cancer sucks, indeed. HPV's a ghost, though. There's really no way to truly avoid it, even if you're sexually inert.

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    • Re:Good condom information (Score:1)

      by jordan (120)

      • You do understand that there are strains of HPV that can cause actual warts anywhere, right? And that something like 80% of sexually active humans are estimated to have had contact with it at some point, right? So the only 100% effective way for a human being to avoid contact with HPV is to avoid contact with other human beings, period.

      Congratulations on a very simplistic understanding of the situation. While HPV, as a whole, is very common, there are strains that are extremely highly correlated with cer
      • Re:Good condom information (Score:1)

        by chaoticset (2105)

        Congratulations on a very simplistic understanding of the situation.
        Thank you. I pride myself on not having a degree in biology, virology, etc.

        I can't help but notice the word may laced through all the quotes noted here. Does this mean that there's really no chasing this thing down as of yet, and that much of the scientific jury has guesses but not answers?

        I can't help but get the feeling that you think I may be wrong, but I never said I was right -- just pointed out that your statement was, well, '

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        • Re:Good condom information (Score:1)

          by jordan (120)

          • I can't help but notice the word may laced through all the quotes noted here. Does this mean that there's really no chasing this thing down as of yet, and that much of the scientific jury has guesses but not answers?

          Scientists often talk that way, especially in Medicine which is not an exact science.

          Sure, it all may be wrong, but here's two facts that are well established:

          • 93% of all cervical cancers are related to these strains of HPV.
          • Promiscuity is strongly correlated with incidence of both HPV tran
          • Re:Good condom information (Score:1)

            by chaoticset (2105)

            I'll remember to not take anything you say seriously in the future unless you also say that you are right.

            This will probably be beneficial for both of us; I almost never say I'm right, and I should never be taken seriously. :)

            As for statistics...I used to have plenty of these sorts of discussions, and have found nothing productive comes from them, least of all the sensation that I've been in gladatorial contest. (A feeling of nausea combined with adrenaline rush, if you're curious.) I would ask for so

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