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• OS X Good (Score:1)

  by jhi (318)

  About the only gripe I have is that the Terminal application sucks raw eggs as a terminal application. I haven't looked closely at what it thinks it's trying to do but it's not what I got used to-- 15 years ago on true VT100s and lookalikes. As a UNIX interface nothing beats a good text terminal, and the Terminal isn't (hopefully "isn't yet").

  Note that I may be barking at the wrong tree: maybe it's the combination of Terminal and the shell that is sucky. But whatever it is, things like suspending your
  • Re:OS X Good (Score:1)

    by pjm (639) on 2002.02.11 1:24 (#4309)

    Yep, the terminal is seriously screwed up. Some little things seem related to the fact that it doesn't run setuid (so that closing a window through the GUI means you get a ghost entry in the output from "who", as Terminal.app lacks permission to write to the log file. )
    
    Another observation: if you have your preferences set to "use this shell: " instead of "use default login for this user" the terminal seems incapable of changing the ownership of the device file! That is, if /dev/ttyp6, for example, is owned by root:wheel and you open it as user jhi with terminal pref's as above, it'll *still* be owned by root:wheel instead of jhi:tty. Do the same thing with "default login" and the ownership changes as it should. I would guess this might be related to the first problem, but it is certainly indicates that your guess re "bubble gum" might not be far off the mark.
    
    [[Symptom: pretty hard to change "mesg" status when you don't own the device!]]
    
    I haven't had any problems with job suspension though: seems to work as expected here.
    
    Cheers,
    Paul

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