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• Builtin hashes (Score:2)

  by Matts (1087)

  Of course PL/SQL has builtin hashes. It's a table with two columns.
  
  No I don't know whether I'm being sarcastic or not either.
  • Re:Builtin hashes (Score:2)

    by jdavidb (1361)

    Touche. You win. :)

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  • Re:Builtin hashes (Score:2)

    by jdavidb (1361)

    My point is that they appear to get excited over non-features, like the syntax for a PL/SQL block.

    We used to take a vacation out west every summer, camping most of the time, but stopping every few days in a hotel to clean up and reconnect with civilization. In the states at least, there are certain things expected at a hotel. I remember gawking at hotel signs that advertised "air conditioning" and "color television," because every hotel I ever stayed at had these. It was like advertising that the rooms

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  • Re:Builtin hashes (Score:1)

    by billp (3940)

    DECLARE /* requires Oracle9i or later */
        TYPE hashtable_t IS TABLE OF RAW(128) INDEX BY VARCHAR2(12);
        string_hash hashtable_t;
    BEGIN
        string_hash('observation') := '6C6F6F6B73206C696B65206275696C742D696E2068617368696E6720746F206D65';
        string_hash('signature') := '62696C6C2070726962796C';
    END;
    /
    
    • Re:Builtin hashes (Score:2)

      by jdavidb (1361)

      Hi, Bill. Welcome to the site. I'm honored to have attracted your attention.

      Thanks for the books! I'm learning at breakneck pace. The combined experience you and Steve bring to bear is priceless. I recently completed Learning Oracle PL/SQL and was thrilled at all the things I was exposed to; many of those items I would probably never have seen. (And if you search my recent journal entries, you'll find one that amazed some of my coworkers and made me rather popular.)

      Thanks for the hash example. I

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• different audience, maybe ? (Score:1)

  by tinman (2063)

  Oracle DBA is a full time job, and you rarely get time to do more than the odd shell script for automation.. Maybe its an unfair generalization, but for non-programmers, the cleanness of PL/SQL code is probably a big deal..

  I doubt many people are interested in TIMTOWTDI if it can just get the job done..In the same way that my parents dont really care about the mechanics of email so long as they can mail their friends from time to time :)
  • Re:different audience, maybe ? (Score:2)

    by jdavidb (1361)

    Oh, I think Feuerstein and Pribyl are all about TIMTOWTDI. They're just missing a lot. They are programmers, btw, not DBAs.

    Currently I take issue with anything that describes PL/SQL as "clean." :) That may change once I speak like a native, though. When I pointed out Pribyl's comment that PL/SQL was more readable than Perl, my point was that he was wrong (though probably for the same reason I don't think PL/SQL is clean: he doesn't speak Perl). Of course, good programmers can write COBOL in any langu

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    • Re:different audience, maybe ? (Score:1)

      by tinman (2063)

      FWIW, I think I speak PL/SQL better than any other language, and I think it is cleaner..

      To me, PL/SQL is like Modula-2 (a Pascal-like language that I learnt in uni).. It forces you to concentrate on certain things and the core language itself is very simple.. Perl, for me, is different.. yes, you CAN write code that is as ordered as PL/SQL, but you dont have to.. Consequently, its more powerful. (rule breaking is a good thing, at times)..

      I didnt know that they (Fuerstein and Pribyl) werent DBAs first and
      • Re:different audience, maybe ? (Score:2)

        by jdavidb (1361)

        Thanks for the insight. Ask me in a year or so, and I'll be able to offer a more educated opinion as to whether I really think PL/SQL is clean or not. I think what makes me feel it isn't clean is that it's so verbose. Just seems to have tremendously long keywords and a tremendous number of required ones.

        I am pretty certain they are primarily programmers, not DBAs. O'Reilly's DBA books are written by other authors. Feuerstein, I know, was doing Oracle for McDonald's (contract work, I presume), when O'

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