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We don't necesarily need a marketing campaign (Score:1)
I think most people, including me, are going to "Marketing Campaign" and think that means spending money on advertising.
It doesn't have to.
I, personally, think there's a lot of value in just doing the survey part. Just knowing which issues are hurting us the most makes it easier for us to fix the right problems.
Imagine what would happen if we did a "Try Perl at perl.com" or "Try Perl at perl.org" today? If we were to spend a hypothetical million dollars on Magazine, TV and Radio, would we actually be in any
Re:We don't necesarily need a marketing campaign (Score:2)
Marketing could mean money, but it doesn't have to. Frankly, most Perl people aren't marketing people, so we really don't know what's involved, but something as silly as putting up a "I'm Java/I'm Perl" videos on Youtube might take off. Lots of marketing seems to be throwing lots of stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. I'm quite happy for us to try and figure out marketing which doesn't cost money, but I also don't think that spending money for long term gain would necessarily be bad. It would just be bad if we don't know why we're spending it.
I am, however, quite serious that we while exploring this idea is worthwhile, it less worthwhile if the marketing/p5p follow-ups don't happen.
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I've been thinking about what we could do as programmers to help the marketing side of things and I think I have an idea. Lots of people come into a new language because they want to hack on some system/program written in that language and the cooler and "prettier" the app, the more people that use it and want to hack on it.
So I think the best thing that us programmers can do for Perl's image (5 & 6) is to write some killer programs. Not cool CPAN modules (which are only visible inside our little bubble
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This precise utterance is actually the reason why Perl applications don’t have good design.
I appear to be one of few Perl programmers who have any direct appreciation (if not particularly great skill) at design. In contrast, both PHP and Rails are infested with these people. I have seen reams of postings about typography out of the Ruby people I follow, f.ex., and not a single thing about it from a Perl person, if memory serves.
And that means whate