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  • Yeah, homeschooling is one of those odd things where both the extreme left and extreme right have a tendency to have common resources and goals. One of my left-ish friends homeschooled his kids, and had lots of conversations with right-ish homeschoolers as well. Interesting.
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    • This is one of the things I really like about homeschooling. There are so many different points of view. As long as all subscribe to the fundamental mantra of homeschooling, in my mind, "Parents are the best judge of how to raise and educate their own children," I appreciate what they are doing and love looking at the diversity for cross-pollination of ideas.

      Somewhere I read somebody saying the tree-huggers (or some similar offensive term for leftist environmentalists) paved the way, the religious funda

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      • Parents are the best judge of how to raise and educate their own children

        And... everyone is above average [freep.com] too.

        On a more serious note, being the best judge of how to do it (which I don't agree with... but let's just pretend for a moment) still doesn't make you the most capable person of doing it.

        I personally will be home schooling my kids... every day after they get home from school. I will add to their learning experience.

        Not shield them from it.

        It seems to me that this is the real purpose for many po
        • I personally will be home schooling my kids... every day after they get home from school. I will add to their learning experience. Not shield them from it.

          How is teaching kids shielding them learning? I could just as easily say, by sending your kids off to school during the day, you are shielding them from opportunties they could otherwise have.

          What your statement assumes is that sending a kid to a school is the best or default way for them to learn these things, or that it is somehow something people "should" do. Says who? Where is this written or demonstrated? What's so sacred about schools?

          Again, I can't send my kids to school just because I have no reason not to. I need a reason TO do it. School is a huge committment. You're talking well over a thousand hours per year. I need to be given a damned good reason to send my child to something that is that significant of a committment. To date, I don't have one.

          It seems to me that this is the real purpose for many poeple, they don't want their kids taught certain things.

          Where "many" is not "most," perhaps. Those views represent a clear minority of the people I know who are homeschooling.

          But, the other point I was trying to make is that I don't see how replacing an educational experience is better than augmenting the experience.

          See, and I think you have it backward. I think attending a formal school is replacing what should be the default, being taught at home.

          I understand you mean both are possible simultaneously. Sure. If I did send my kids to school, I would surely teach them at home too.

          I think public education in regards to home schooling is the same way. If the families would spend as much time after school with their kids when they are in public school, as they do after they remove them from public school, then they wouldn't need to remove them from public school to begin with.

          You keep thinking this is about protecting kids from something or the other. Primarily, my purpose in homeschooling is to provide opportunity. Public education is a waste of time. My kids will learn a lot more a lot faster at home, without a significant decrease in anything important, including socialization. They will learn more, have more opportunity, have more diverse experiences, meet more diverse people. There's really no comparison when you line them up. There's nothing public school can offer my family, except that it costs less of us, in time and money.

          (FWIW, I am all in favor of the existence of public school, and in tax money used for it. I just think it should be used a lot less, and only by those people who don't have other opportunities, or otherwise wish to use it for reasons I cannot fathom. :-)
          • How is teaching kids shielding them learning?

            Taking them out of formal school so that they won't experience something (political, religious, social) is the shielding I was referring to.

            The only case I've personally experienced was where someone started home schooling because they didn't want their kid taught evolution.

            If you can't deal with exposing your kid to a theory, you have a serious problem, IMHO. At the very least, teach them to refute the damn thing. But, to completely limit exposure?

            What you
            • The only case I've personally experienced was where someone started home schooling because they didn't want their kid taught evolution.

              OK. But that is the very small minority in my experience.

              Although, I would note that public schools are not allowed to teach religion in this way ... :-)

              My proposition is that A + B > B for all cases. (Likewise, A + B > A for all cases.)

              Where A and B represent useful knowledge, I cannot agree. Sure, my kids can learn some things in school they won't learn at h
            • The only case I've personally experienced was where someone started home schooling because they didn't want their kid taught evolution.

              Well, conveniently, now that you have read my journal, only 20% of the cases you have heard about are for that reason. The four families I mentioned are homeschooling for other reasons.

              If you can't deal with exposing your kid to a theory, you have a serious problem, IMHO. At the very least, teach them to refute the damn thing. But, to completely limit exposure?

              Who

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            • I've really got to agree with pudge's case that a lot of school is a waste of time. (He seems to perhaps be saying 100% of school ... I'd have to make the percentage somewhat lower.)

              I have an informal list of "reasons that made it easier for me to choose homeschooling." This list isn't written, yet; it consists of things that I just did not like or do not like about the system of schooling; these are not items that constitute reasons why I am going to homeschool, but things that made it easier for me to

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              • I've really got to agree with pudge's case that a lot of school is a waste of time.

                I would agree. I was bored out of my gourd in high school.

                I rarely did homework... had 18 zeros one quarter in my English Comp. class.

                Still graduated 26th (of ~450) in my class.

                It was a totally horrendous waste of time, in my view, at the time.

                And, I would totally agree that it needs to be imporved.

                BTW, what in this post says anything about shielding kids from evolution?

                Nothing in your post. I brought that up from m