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  • I will disclaim that I do not know all the facts, but I would like to assert that there are always two sides of the story when it comes to situations like this. Only history will be able to tell after it's all said & done with who was more on the side of right. Palestine is not the only victim - they have their fair share of offensive measures, killing innocent civilians.

    The whole thing is a bloody mess and will continue to be so - there can be no peace when two militant groups want exactly the same

    • Who the fuck cares who is right? People are getting killed in ludicrous numbers on both sides and nobody seems to have the will to look at any solution that doesn't involve of killing more of them than they kill of us.

      And everyone else looks on and does nothing.

      Somebody, some day has to step back from this, but as long as Israel continues to act with impunity and as long as there are significant numbers of people in Palestine who see no better future for themselves than to go out in a blaze of glory and a welter of blood on a semtex powered ride to paradise the whole situation is buggered.

      Personally I think stopping arms sales to Israel and Palestine, massive aid (non military) aid to both sides and immediate recognition of a Palestinian State might be a start. No, given their current behaviour they don't deserve it, but, as the stick patently isn't working, maybe it's time to try the carrot.
      • Thats the problem.

        A handful say maybe 30 out of population of hundreds of thousands have blown themselves up.

        Another say couple of hundred militia are taking potshots at settlers on occupied terrortory - this is of course repaid in kind by armed settler militia and isreali soldiers.

        Saying that the people of palestine don't deserve liberation is unfounded. The people of palestine have no access to international media, no access to the United Nations, no representation except the PLA and Hammas - The PLA i

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        • You seem to forget that Israel did try the carrot and the path of compromise -- in 1993 with the original Oslo agreement, with bringing Yasser Arafat in to head the Palestinian Authority, with making far-reaching offers at the negotiating table at Camp David in 2000.

          Frankly, I'm glad to see Israel going after the Hamas terrorists -- and their families -- rather than after the Palestinian infrastructure. And given the Hamas belief that all who die in the battle with the infidel go to heaven, I'm not quite