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  • http://www.eursoc.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/1425/The_Dawkins_Delusion.html [eursoc.com]

        I first read about Dawkins in a NewsWeek article, I think it was NewsWeek. The article was an interview with Dawkins & Francis Collins. What I found fascinating is that Collins was an atheist until 27, then became a Christian. ... Ah, I found the article, it was Time not NewsWeek. You can read it here,

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1555132-1,00.html [time.com]
    • I first read about Dawkins in a NewsWeek article, I think it was NewsWeek. The article was an interview with Dawkins & Francis Collins. What I found fascinating is that Collins was an atheist until 27, then became a Christian. ... Ah, I found the article, it was Time not NewsWeek. You can read it here,

      http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1555132-1,00.html [time.com]

      I found some of this interview to be quite funny, as it exposes Dawkins as having an extremely limited and narrow mind for this sort of thing. For example:

      DAWKINS: People who believe in God conclude there must have been a divine knob twiddler who twiddled the knobs of these half-dozen constants to get them exactly right. The problem is that this says, because something is vastly improbable, we need a God to explain it. But that God himself would be even more improbable.

      There is, of course, no scientific b

      • Once you buy into the position of faith, then suddenly you find yourself losing all of your natural skepticism and your scientific--really scientific--credibility. I'm sorry to be so blunt.

        This is an ad hominem fallacy. I emphasize that its a fallacy because it's a flaw in logic. Maybe it does make you "lose credibility." But "credibility" shouldn't matter to the examination of an argument or experiment unless you're committing the fallacy of argument from authority. What matters for the scientific me

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        J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
        • Maybe it does make you "lose credibility." But "credibility" shouldn't matter to the examination of an argument or experiment unless you're committing the fallacy of argument from authority. What matters for the scientific method is not a researchers "credibility," but the repeatability of their experiments.

          True enough, but for human reasons, credibility matters.

          But since Collins and Newton (and many others) have plenty of credibility, Dawkins' claim is just obviously false, even if not fallacious (which it is).

          • True enough, but for human reasons, credibility matters.

            I agree. Credibility factors in when you answer questions like "Is it worth attempting to repeat this experiment in the first place, or do I just think it's a pack of lies?" Say, for example, trying to replicate the effect Alex Chiu gets from his rings. :)

            But in purely scientific terms, what matters is if your experiment is repeatable. The fact that you erroneously think the center of the galaxy is something other than a black hole does not affe

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            J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
            • Credibility factors in when you answer questions like "Is it worth attempting to repeat this experiment in the first place, or do I just think it's a pack of lies?" Say, for example, trying to replicate the effect Alex Chiu gets from his rings. :)
              I have some Alex Chiu rings. Seriously.

              I'll let you know!
              • I know that. :)

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                J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers