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• The important thing here (Score:1)

  by hobbs (3161)

  is that it doesn't really matter what you think. A considerable portion of the rest of the world will end up using Moose irrespective of your opinion of it. Will you accept it in your dependencies and spend your time working on something useful, or you dedicate the remainder of your life to shaving Yak::Tiny?
  • Just STFU (Score:2)

    by brian_d_foy (44) <brian.d.foy@gmail.com> on 2009.09.03 16:34 (#70478) Homepage Journal

    A considerable portion? Really? Most people I run into using Perl don't even know there's a CPAN.

    And, isn't this the same tired argument about why we should be using whatever the hot new technolgy is? I've lost count how many times I've been told this about some Perl module or framework. Indeed, if that's really what you believe, why do you even use Perl? You should be using Java, since even more of the world uses that. And Windows too. And ..., and ..., and ...

    Why do you care what Adam decides to use or not, or how he spends his time? At least he has a coherent argument. You merely whine like a fanboi without responding to any of the actual issues Adam raises and that Moose people acknowledge. Moose might be a great project, but the fucking fanbois like you are enough to keep me away (despite how cool the core Moose people are).

    The important thing here is that Adam is making an actual economic analysis of what he gives up for what he gets, and making a reasoned decision based on it. His economic inputs might be different from yours, but that doesn't mean he's wrong (or that you are right).

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    • Zealotry is bad Mmm'kay? (Score:1)

      by perigrin (3495)

      You merely whine like a fanboi without responding to any of the actual issues Adam raises and that Moose people acknowledge. Moose might be a great project, but the fucking fanbois like you are enough to keep me away (despite how cool the core Moose people are).

      This is just sadly ironic. You're saying you are letting the community decide for you what you should and shouldn't explore technically without taking the project itself into account. We have all had our fanboi moments. But, as a Moose developer, I w
      • Re: (Score:2)

        by brian_d_foy (44)

        I think you don't understand irony. I'm not letting anyone choose for me. I'm big enough to make my own decisions.
        • Re: (Score:1)

          by perigrin (3495)

          Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance) is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity or discordance between what one says or does and what one means or what is generally understood.

          The incongruity between what you said:

          the fucking fanbois like you are enough to keep me away

          and what you mean

          I'm not letting anyone choose for me. I'm big enough to make my own decisions.

          Seemed
      • Re: (Score:1)

        by zby (4817)

        "It seems however that this whole thread has been a series of people telling other people that what they can and cannot do in a public forum" - that is a good characterisation of the circumstances - but I think we need to go a bit deeper here and explain why it is now that people started to do that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Whys - anyone?). Yes - CPAN contributors should be free to choose any way they want to code their own modules - but on the other hand those that add these modules as dependencies