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  • is that you have to already be a part of the community, so that you know the proper tone to strike to get help. Otherwise, your chances of doing so cold, at a point when you're already frustrated, are pretty slim.

    On the one hand, it makes perfect community sense: rite of passage, yada yada. On the other hand, it's pretty appalling behavior for anyone out of junior high.

    Not sure what to think. I guess if the community is strengthened by driving off all but the most determined/thick-skinned newbies, it's a go

    • It's not you have to be part of a community it's that you have to help others to help you.

      At no point did he do that, he didn't double check when he followed instructions (despite clearly not understanding either the instructions or the tools), he didn't give an example of what he was doing, failed to give any useful information, and made the fatal error of being certain that a presumably well tested and widely used piece of software is broken rather than something he did or bad input.

      The guy was out of his depth, and got bailed out by a bunch of strangers for free, after insulting their project, despite failing to listen or follow instructions or help them help in any way.

      Then he complains that he didn't get warm fuzzy feelings from them too.FFS.

      It's not even like they just gave him advice from klortho, despite all the following applying :
      #11943 Ah yes, and you are the first person to have noticed this bug since 1987. Sure.
      #11941 Of course it doesn't work! That's because you don't know what you are doing!
        #11927 A good approach to that problem would be to hire a computer programmer.


      @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
      print reverse @JAPH;
      • If you think the response is in justifiable proportion to the mistakes he made (and yes, he did make them), you and I really aren't speaking the same language.

        • While I agree with you, I believe the point is that many people here would have kicked everyone out of the channel for being rude, whiny, tiresome, or plain ol' boring.

        • No, the response isn't reasonable - you don't have to respond in kind to rudeness, you also don't have to spend your time helping rude people, particularly if they are being stupid (beyond not knowing stuff, but failing to pay attention, provide useful information or in any way help them to help themselves).

          But.. it's worth remembering that the guy joined an irc channel, was rude about the project, insinuated that everybody there had no social skills and was sarcastic and unhelpful when they tried to help h


          @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
          print reverse @JAPH;