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  • ... had your mail delivered to the local Salvation Army, or a church, or any number of charities' offices, or a friend's house. You could have given their phone numbers too, and they'd take messages for you. Sorry, still no sympathy.

    In a civilised society (and I'll admit I don't actually know whether you live in one) there is enough help from the state that no-one need live on the streets, no-one need eat other peoples' rubbish. Therefore I conclude that anyone living on the streets in a civilised soci

    • In a civilised society (and I'll admit I don't actually know whether you live in one) there is enough help from the state that no-one need live on the streets, no-one need eat other peoples' rubbish.

      Right. Sure. Try it. It's interesting that those outside of a situation often have a peculiar idea about the situation of those inside of it.

      Having an address is not about having mail delivered. It's about being able to put something down on an application so the prospective boss doesn't realize you're

      • Right. Sure. Try it.

        I know for a fact that in *this* civilised society it is possible to claim income support and housing benefit, and to get help finding a home of some kind from the local council. That home might be a room in a manky "hotel" it's true, but it's a roof, with an address and a phone. Please remember, I did say that I don't know whether you live in a civilised society or not. Judging by your comments in this post, then you probably don't.

        Yes, I agree that asking to have your mail sent to "Mr. Ovid, c/o The Salvation Army" is a bad thing. So have it sent to "Mr. Ovid, 246 Norwood Road" or wherever the church is. Small local churches, like all other businesses, have ordinary addresses. You don't need to use their names.

        The phone number's often a giveaway, too.

        I just looked up the phone numbers of a few local Salvation Army halls, and they look no different from any other local number. Nor do the local priests and churches that I looked up. Nor do the priests I looked up in three other countries.

        If they're already suspicious and you don't have a phone, you're sunk. (And many employers of low-end jobs want you available on an "on call" basis).

        Sure. Many do. Not all.

        Of course, you could scurry to a Church only to find that America ...

        Oh. Jesusistan. Maybe you might deserve my sympathy after all.

        But you've already condemned the homeless as lazy or crazy, so why do I bother to write this?

        Ooh, please, do point me at where I said homeless people were either lazy or crazy. Cos I really don't remember saying that.

        • Therefore I conclude that anyone living on the streets in a civilised society is either mentally ill and incapable of helping themselves (in which case they should be in hospital, and I pay the state to take that responsibility) or is there by their own choice (in which case they don't want my help).

          I really don't know how to read that other than to accuse the homeless of being lazy or crazy. Of course, you do say "civilised society", so perhaps that's a way out. I would definitely argue that the US i