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  • I think you're reading way too much into why a company would like you to sign a NDA. What it says is "we'd like you to do some work for us, but we wouldn't like you to blabber about it with our competitors".

    I don't find that unreasonable.
    • Neither do I. I am actually going for that particular job as well. I read the NDA and found it not unreasonable. It would be my first paid Perl job, which would be cool. I use Perl at work but that job appeals to me because I will be learning from someone more experienced in Perl.
    • Scottie is right that siging an NDA before an interview is a huge warning sign that says several things, none of which is good :
      • 'lawyers are more important than programmers here'
      • 'Our ideas are more valuable than yours'
      • 'We do not trust you'
      • 'When you work here you cannot open source any of the work you do and we will own any ideas that you have at work or at home'

      This isn't always the case, but an NDA before an interview shows that they are all likely and so the company is best avoided.

      There is a pla


      @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
      print reverse @JAPH;
      • In this case, the company is a startup. I do not find it unreasonable for that company to want to keep whatever they are doing private until such time they deem appropriate.

        However, I am glad he pulled his application since I am going for the same position(s). : )

        • I've worked for several startups, in each case they were capable of a) trusting me and b) providing appropriate information for the interview.

          The employment contract itself contained an NDA, which is fairly normal and certainly acceptable.

          I've always found that people with 'trust issues' like this are usually less trustworthy themselves.

          I would certainly think twice about accepting an NDA for an interview.


          @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
          print reverse @JAPH;
          • I did actually. I talked to a couple of friends that are also doing similiar things. I signed it for a couple of reasons. I want to work with Perl professionally. I like the fact that it will be a mentoring type position. I can still say "no" after the interview. If it was an established company I may not have signed it. It is a startup and my take is that they are being paranoid about whatever ideas they have. I can't say I fault them for that. I don't fault Scott either. He made the choice he thinks is ri
            • I think you missed my point entirely. First, I absolutely busted my ass for several startups, one after another, during the dot com rush. I'm not eager to work unnecessarily hard agian. I'm too old and tired. I don't mind working hard, but trying to save a struggling company with a super-human effort is for younger folks. So when I decide I don't want to work for a company, it's because I'm avoiding this situation. And the companies that seem to find themselves in this situation tend to be the ones that ask
              • "my article was only my opinion of why this correlation exists"

                I thought I said that too. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I should have been when answering.

                Of course, I could have missed the point entirely. That has been known to happen from time to time. : )

          • I agree. There's also a difference between asking to sign an NDA at a startup or at a medium/large corporation. (I am only talking about the NDA before the interview.) For the latter is usually just a practice who is proposed by people without even thinking about it. For a start-up, I believe it indicates some real issues in the people who are running it. Like, wasting time and energy on paranoia instead of fully dedicating themselves to the product they're building.
  • Let me put this another way.

    There are "puddle coat" companies that throw some sort of coat over a puddle for ladies to walk across, and there are "bridge troll" companies that identify existing bridges, stake them out, and contrive the situation such as they make a profit from the pre-existance of the bridge.

    I don't want to work for a "bridge troll" company. These companies are the hardest to stand up in and say "we offer no real service, we must do something useful" - because they don't want to provi
  • As the person who posted the ad, founded the company and requested the NDA, let me say this.

    I am not now nor have I ever been a: Lawyer, MBA, or a SUIT!

    I am a hacker, I have been writing code for years, and the simple reason for the NDA is 2 fold.

    1. Maybe you (Scott) are trustworthy, but how do I know that and what about the people who are not?

    2. The NDA comes with instructions. They are simple instructions, but I have found that some people can't follow them. This is an indication that they don't pay a