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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • (ten minutes after my prior comment)

    It occurs to me that my previous comment appears to be blaming Paul for what we did.

    It isn't.

    It's pointing out that among his several pages of constructive bitching, at least half of the points in which we've now addressed and the rest we're trying to as volunteers' time provides, the lack of female badges was one of them, and this is what we did about it given the resources available.

    I take full and absolute responsibility for any and every gender related issue involved

    • The White Camel awards last year made it clear that jarich is not a part of the problem. The fact that she chooses not to participate in your project in no way means that she isn't doing a heck of a lot for Perl. And the fact that you don't realize that just makes you look bad.

      As for her complaining in her journal, the way that I read that is that she is trying to raise awareness in the Perl community in general. As a way of reaching you it is spectacularly inefficient. But emailing you as a way of reac

      • Except Paul's feedback just said "change the title of the aggregator to 'Planet Perl Iron Man'". And actually, no, the reason she complained here rather than direct to me is that she assumed I wouldn't listen. Amazing how easily even the best of us can be messed over by implicit assumptions, eh :) - fortunately as I noted above, this ones now corrected and we're having what will hopefully be a very productive discussion via email.

        The best way to raise awareness in the perl community would IMO have been to subscribe to Iron Man and make a first post roughly entitled "I care about getting the word out about female perl heads more than I do that Matt's a sexist bastard, and here's why". And I'm currently, in between discussing what language changes we can make to be more inclusive without resorting to weasel words, trying to convince her to do exactly that - the perl community has spent too long not having strong opinions in case it treads on other people's toes, and I'm hoping that if she chooses to join the competition she'll offer more well written dissent on other topics as well.

        Oh, and I was there when the award was presented and when PJF went up to collect it on her behalf, and I applauded like hell for the work she'd done - I just hadn't connected the realname and the nick. Which, admittedly, was fucking retarded on my part, but y'know, welcome to being human.