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  • Most of this news coverage has taken the form of Tony Blair speaking on behalf of Parliment, and Parliment speaking on behalf of the British people.

    Tony Blair is deliberately misrepresenting British public opinion. The opinion polls are mostly showing the majority of the British population don't support the war (at least, not without another UN resolution).

    On what grounds are the British people not supporting war in the gulf?

    It's not just in the UK. Much of Europe seems to have the same doubts. Ther

      • The major one seems to be that the US seems to be trying to circumvent proper UN procedures to start the war as soon as possible.

      The US has worked under the auspices of the UN for more than a decade. The allies have worked assiduously to develop a concensus in the UN, with some success (Resolution 1441).

      However, the UN is not World Government. It's ineffective in that role due to the ability of any Security Council member to veto. The UN did not approve of the bombing of Serbia over Kosovo because o

      • When you are out there marching with the Imams - who want to establish Taliban-style regimes everywhere, anti-American Communists and pacifist who would have given in to Hitler, think about which side you may be choosing.

        I was taking your comments seriously until you spoilt it with that piece of stereotyping.

        If you only take away one piece of information from this discussion then let it be this - the Anti-war movement in the UK is not just made up of hippies, socialists and radical Muslims. A complete c

          • I was taking your comments seriously until you spoilt it with that piece of stereotyping.

          It would have been stereotyping had I said that all or even most of the marchers were fringe types. I did not say that.

          What I said was that you would be marching with those types. I think this is undeniable.

          It's ironic to me that you would show solidarity with those who would take your rights away to protest in the future.

          • It's ironic to me that you would show solidarity with those who would take your rights away to protest in the future.

            Sure, if they were marching for the right to take away my rights to protest in the future, then that would be a problem. But they're not. They are marching for the same reason as me. To protest against this war. This is a single issue march. And on that single issue I agree with everyone else who will be there on Saturday. You can't draw any other conclusions about the beliefs of anyone woh will be on the march.

            This is the one thing that I'm hearing most often - people who wouldn't normally be seen with five miles of this kind of demo are putting aside their dislike of the kinds of people who will be their fellow marchers and joining in anyway. Because they see it as important.

              • Sure, if they were marching for the right to take away my rights to protest in the future, then that would be a problem. But they're not.

              Are you sure? If you asked a militant Imam, he might well say that their opposition to the war is part of a greater plan to bring down America and that the aim of bringing down America is part of a greater plan to bring about a World Islamic state.

              I would want to distance myself from these monsters, but that's just me.

              If you live to see, God Forbid, the destruction