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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • Ingy, you live simply because you can. Others have families or don't want to live in tree houses. If those who want to devote lots of time to Perl 6 find out that they have to feed their kids instead, the community's poorer for it. Right now it looks like we'll lose Leo and he's been a huge force behind Perl 6 work. That's gonna hurt.

    If you find that getting paid for open source work doesn't work for you, that's fine, but doesn't mean others are in such a luxurious position. Personally, I feel Damian did a hell of a lot more than just crank out cool code while he was funded. He generated interesting ideas, he traveled and evangelized and, in many respects, probably accomplished many things he couldn't have accomplished were he to hold down a full-time job. I think he really helped the community's sagging morale, even though it was a strain on him.

    Remember, just because this way of getting things done doesn't work for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work for others.

    • I didn't mean to offend anyone, but then again I didn't try hard not to either. =)

      At the risk of being more offensive, let me state further what clearly is only my opinion.

      I'm not so sure that it is going to "hurt" to "lose" Leo. Hurt. What does that mean anyway? And are we really "losing" him? He's not dying. He just chose to invest a lot of his time doing something which I imagine was immensely satisfying. And he probably ran out of funds and needs to feed his family. That's OK. He should do that. He ca
      • I am completely at a loss to understand how your list of real world facts relates to the issue at hand. It seems to me that the issue is: the Perl Foundation would like to fund some developers. You seem to be arguing against funding. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I have absolutely no problem with you saying you don't want to donate. You've contributed plenty in many other ways and I and others appreciate that, but I just don't understand why you're trying to d

      • But is it the one true way to get to the end of the Journey?

        Nope. There's always more than one way to do it.

        My main point is that there isn't a required timeline on Perl6.

        Yup. Exactly. With various permutations and combinations, the various paths are basically:

        1. Development continues as it has. Developers come and go. Perl 6 is released.
        2. Some funding comes in. We use it to get a little more developer time. Perl 6 is released sooner.
        3. Companies hire Perl 6/Parrot developers, let them do open source