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Perl Certification Kwiki Now Online

posted by pudge on 2003.07.10 12:35   

Tim Maher writes "Along with a tenacious cold in a hot land, I picked up Kwiki Fever at YAPC last month. So I'm thinking, why make TPC attendees wait until Thursday afternoon or Thursday evening to start frothing at the mouth about every JAPHs favorite controversy, and why deprive non-attendees of the experience altogether, when we can start arguing about Perl Certification right now at the Perl Certification Kwiki site?"

• I think the first question is ... (Score:1)

  by chip (65)

  Why?

  No, don't bother. It was rhetorical. Dismissive, even.
  • Re:I think the first question is ... (Score:2)

    by yumpy (1032)

    Why have Perl Certification?

    General Purpose

    • Provide optional credentials that certify a level of proficiency
    • ideally, ultimately, several hierarchical levels, including:
      • Basic, OO, CGI, DBI, Networking, etc.

    Who Benefits?

    • Hiring managers who want help in screening applicants
    • JAPHs without college degrees or strong reputations (like someone who learns Perl from the local *.pm and Camel), who need help in verifying their knowledge
    • The Whole Perl Community
      • gives us a more professional appearance,

    --
    
    Dr. Tim Maher
    CEO, Consultix
    Perl and UNIX Training [teachmeperl.com]
    • Re:I think the first question is ... (Score:2)

      by hossman (2110)

      Why have Perl Certification?

      I interpreted the question as "Why setup a whole Wiki for this one topic?"

      At least, that's the question i would have asked ... it seems like this could easily be covered by a single "node" on ny of a number of alrger discussion sites -- but hey, who am i to suggest that someone who has an interested in something shouldn't set up a site dedicated to that topic.
      • Re:I think the first question is ... (Score:2)

        by yumpy (1032)

        The topic is B big enough to populate a Wiki of its own, and equally certain to be too discursive and ungainly to be easily followed in a threaded medium (as has been previously demonstrated). And it's a whole lot easier to explore discussions preserved in the Wiki format, IMHO.

        --
        
        Dr. Tim Maher
        CEO, Consultix
        Perl and UNIX Training [teachmeperl.com]
• Oooh, oooh! (Score:1)

  by chaoticset (2105)

  Things to argue about!

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• Let's discuss it here (Score:2)

  by jdavidb (1361)

  I haven't caught the wiki fever yet, but I do love slash. Let's discuss it here, where we can see what ideas pass the test of community examination by what gets modded up.

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  J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
• I vote no (Score:2)

  by jdavidb (1361)

  After reading Ask the Headhunter [asktheheadhunter.com] I question the value of any particular certification for my own career. I'm all for training, but I'm hooked on the idea of applying for a job by showing what I can do, not by listing bullet points on a resume. I'd rather go in there and show them how I can make their lives easier with Perl. That works in any shop, whereas certification is only going to be interesting to a place that already uses Perl.

  However, my "no," vote is simply a, "No, I'm personally not intereste

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  J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
  • Re:I vote no (Score:2)

    by yumpy (1032)

    Certainly, people with evidence of prior achievements that show what they can do with Perl won't feel much need to obtain certification to help establish their knowledge. But those at earlier stages of their careers, or with former employers unwilling to give them references or let them take away code samples, may well feel the need for objective evidence of their knowledge. I vote for helping them obtain that evidence, in a manner approved by an independent group with credibility in the Perl community.

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    Dr. Tim Maher
    CEO, Consultix
    Perl and UNIX Training [teachmeperl.com]
• aren't weforgetting something? (Score:2)

  by wickline (135)

  Any certificate is only as good as the certifying body. For example, you see the phrase "degree from" associated with "acredited institution" in many US documents.
  
  So, if/when any perl certificate-granting program is devised, please contact me with a large sum of money and I'll be happy to certify the certifying program ;)
  
  -matt