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Zope to Include Support for Perl

posted by pudge on 2000.05.28 7:33   

jon peterson writes "From Linux Weekly News it looks like ActiveState are going to put Perl support into Zope. More information on Perl and Zope is at the Perl for Zope Wiki."

Yeah, but where is Python support for Slash?

• This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by drj826 (154)

  ...Although many on the Zope mailing list don't want Zope "polluted" by adding support for Perl. I "discovered" Zope a few weeks ago and it seems to be a really cool system. Perhaps I've been living under a rock, but the whole idea of a "web application platform" on which you can build services, like a (slash|squish)dot, is powerful. I find Zope's security model particularly powerful. Is there anything like Zope already implemented in Perl?
• Damn! (Score:1, Interesting)

  by ajs (158)

  Zope was actually the reason that I was planning to learn Python. Now I'll have to wait for Python's next Killer App ;-)

  On a serious note: does anyone know if Zope supports Vignette StoryServer-like caching? That is to say, pages can be generated by emulating 404s, and then drop a static copy into place once they've been generated. This is really StoryServer's big feature since later hits on that page require no code be run. Many other caching systems only cache data, not pages.

  --
  Yet Another Just another perl hacker, // essays.ajs.com
• Re:This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by pudge (1)

  You mean, aside from Slash [slashcode.com]?
• Re:This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by drj826 (154)

  My perception is that Slash is a weblog application. Zope, on the other hand, is a *platform* on which to build things like slash.

  I guess this "platform" vs. "application" thing can be confusing. For instance, people sometimes think of Mozilla as a browser (which is an application) when it is really a platform that makes it easy to build a browser.

  I think slash and Zope are different too; slash being an application, and Zope being a platform.
• Re:This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by jlp (160)

  You might want to take a look at Jellybean [sourceforge.net]. It's still very early in development, but it's coming along pretty well.
• Re:This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by pudge (1)

  I see no significant difference between the two. Specifically, what makes Slash an application and Zope a platform?
• Re:This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by drj826 (154)

  I'll attempt a comparison of Zope and Slash, but must disclaim the expertise to do a thorough job, and I may be flat out wrong about some of these things. I only know a little about Zope, and don't know much at all about Slash. Although I'm pretty much a Perl zealot, I find a lot to admire about Zope. I'm sorry if this sounds like a sales pitch...

  Slash

  • Slash is a weblog application written in Perl that depends on other applications (a database, a web server) to deliver it's functionality.
  • Slash is
• Re:Damn! (Score:1, Interesting)

  by jon peterson (30)

  I believe that HTML::Mason has this feature.
• Re:This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by jon peterson (30)

  There are many things similar but not as complete. The ones that spring to mind are:
  
  Iaijutsu - early development (working code but not released at all) http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=417
  
  Also HTML::Mason is popular as is HTML::Template and Template Toolkit (all on CPAN)
  
  And who knows, there are probably others...
• Re:This is a Good Thing... (Score:1, Interesting)

  by davorg (18)

  > There are many things similar but not as > complete. The ones that spring to mind are: > > Iaijutsu - early development (working code but > not released at all) > http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=417 > > Also HTML::Mason is popular as is > HTML::Template and Template Toolkit (all on > CPAN) Probably worth pointing out that Iaijutsu is based on the Template Toolkit. Dave...
• Zope Project Has Amazing Insight: (Score:1, Interesting)

  by chip (65)

  The Zope Project has had an amazing insight:

  • ``There's More Than One Way To Do It!''

  JPEGs at eleven.
• Squishdot.org (Score:1, Interesting)

  by Alex Farber (284)

  Yeah, but where is Python support for Slash?

  Do you mean Squishdot.org [squishdot.org]?
• Re:Squishdot.org (Score:1, Interesting)

  by pudge (1)

  No ...
• caching (Score:1, Interesting)

  by mindlace (322)

  You can use squid to do it more or less automagically [zope.org].

  You can use ZCache [zope.org], a zope product. -- ethan mindlace fremen Zopista Community Liason
• Theres a chat log about this too (Score:1, Interesting)

  by mindlace (322)

  Jim Fulton, CTO of Digital Creations, talked for a while with the zopistas about Python methods. I wrote up a synopsis [zope.org].