ybiC's Friends' Journals http://use.perl.org/~ybiC/journal/friends/ ybiC's Friends' use Perl Journals en-us use Perl; is Copyright 1998-2006, Chris Nandor. Stories, comments, journals, and other submissions posted on use Perl; are Copyright their respective owners. 2012-01-25T02:16:32+00:00 pudge pudge@perl.org Technology hourly 1 1970-01-01T00:00+00:00 ybiC's Friends' Journals http://use.perl.org/images/topics/useperl.gif http://use.perl.org/~ybiC/journal/friends/ Flore Louise Apolline Bruhat-Souche http://use.perl.org/~BooK/journal/40510?from=rss <p>On Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 9:30, Flore Louise Apolline Bruhat-Souche was born. She weighs 3.02 kg and measures 48 cm. </p><p> Word already spread through IRC (#perlfr and #yapc mostly) and via email and telephone. </p><p> The mother is fine, the father is slightly tired and the <a href="http://use.perl.org/~BooK/journal/33509">big sister</a> is happy. </p><p> There is <a href="http://flore.bruhat-souche.net/">one photo online</a>. </p> BooK 2010-08-20T22:17:07+00:00 journal On tour: Open Source Bridge, YAPC::NA and other fun things http://use.perl.org/~jarich/journal/40456?from=rss <p> After the fun I had at OSCON last year, it was no effort at all for pjf to convince me to spend June and July in the USA this year, conferencing. </p><p> <b>Portland, Oregon</b> </p><p> I arrived at midnight on the 31st May and was met at the airport by Schwern, pjf and Nadia, who took me onwards to donuts and pies. Having traveled for something like 30 hours at the time I was rather wiped out and probably not as appreciative of this as I should have been, but I soon got to bed and slept very soundly. </p><p> Schwern warned me ahead of time that he was going to be a busy, and thus less friendly host, and that he and his housemate Nick had been a little guested-out due to an almost endless procession of house-guests. He must have exaggerated. Between them, Schwern and Nick took us to the local farmers' market, to a parade, to numerous dinners and drinks out, and more. Schwern helped us get to the conference location, and also accompanied me home most nights. </p><p> <b>Open Source Bridge</b> </p><p> The conference was Open Source Bridge; and it is unlike any community-run conference I've ever attended. It was extremely professionally run, with copious amounts of information, high quality keynotes and speakers, an excellent feedback system... big and little things that the conferences I've been involved with are still struggling with after 6+ years and this was only OSB's second year! My talk was very well received, I was spoiled for choice for every single session and the unconference at the end really just capped things off. It was good to see so many familiar faces, and I caught up with some Australians, and Australian-expats that I hadn't seen for quite some time. </p><p> If you get to choose the geek conference you go to next year; make it Open Source Bridge! </p><p> <b>More Portland, Oregon</b> </p><p> The following two weeks, Sherri and Christie kindly hosted Paul and I. When I ran into some personal issues, I could not have hoped for more generous hosts. Sherri made sure I got out of bed each day, and many days Schwern and others made sure I got out of the house. Apparently we were lovely guests, but really Sherri and Christie were excellent hosts. Sherri cooked copious amounts of extremely yummy vegan food, and let me eat it for breakfast and lunch. They took us strawberry picking, to a great Ethiopian restaurant, and took me to an amazing vegan cafe for breakfast on my last day in Portland. </p><p> <b>YAPC::NA, Columbus, Ohio</b> </p><p> Next up was YAPC::NA in Columbus, Ohio. Very much like YAPC::EU I felt completely at home in this crowd. It was great to know that I could walk into any conference talk and have a pretty good idea of the topic matter. It did feel a little strange that many of the big names, and the people I view as particularly important knew me, but many of the regular people neither recognised me nor my "handle", but I suspect I shouldn't have been so surprised. </p><p> My tutorial was very well received, I met a whole lot more people, learned a bunch of new things, and got all fired up about finishing writing our Enterprise Perl course and documenting perl5i. It was really, really awesome to catch up with Karen, Jesse and Piers again, specifically. </p><p> <b>Milwaukee, Wisconsin</b> </p><p> Milwaukee wasn't originally on my list of places to visit, however a friend online invited me to drop by and visit, and I had a few days free, so why not? My friend, Jordi, and Sarah, invited me to stay with them. Jordi is an astrophysicist who spent some of the first afternoon explaining to me how it is that neutrinos do in fact mutate. Which was actually much more interesting than I think he thought I'd find it. </p><p> We walked the riverfront, found great restaurants, saw the music festival from afar, went to a nearby Strawberry festival (yum!) and spent time playing with the newly arrived arduino set. I've been wishing I could get involved with arduino for years, but also never been into electronics. Jordi and I worked through the basic tutorials with his board, and I found the whole thing very cool! </p><p> To top the trip off, Jordi and Sarah invited me to hang out for drinks with some of their colleagues one evening (they all work at the nearby university). I had a thoroughly good time, and felt I fitted in just fine, even though most of them use Python.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) After drinks there was dinner (with 3 free drinks for the ladies) and then Tron. Ah, good times. </p><p> <b>New York City</b> </p><p> My next scheduled stop was the big apple. While at YAPC::NA I discovered that a fellow Melbourne Perl Monger (Patrick) had recently moved to New York, and he insisted that we should stay with him. I had some minor adventures getting to his place, but received a very warm welcome, and was glad to take a cold shower. That was the first summer-like weather I'd seen for my whole trip thus far. </p><p> While in New York, I explored the New York Public Library (and saw the Rose Room), had a tour of Google with lunch (thank you to Tom Limoncelli), caught the Staten Island ferry, saw the Statue of Liberty, walked down Wall Street (and saw the cordoned-off outside of the New York Stock Exchange), checked out the Empire State building, the Sex Museum, Times Square and the Rockerfella(?) building. Much touristy stuff. </p><p> Patrick and Helen were lovely hosts, and it wasn't their fault at all that the temperature refused to drop to something reasonable for the whole time I was in town.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) </p><p> <b>Minneapolis, Minnesota</b> </p><p> My last touring destination was Minneapolis where Steven Levine arranged an amazing weekend of activities to keep me busy. I did my best, but arrived with the start of a sore throat and fever. I arrived on a Thursday afternoon and first up was dinner with Matt and Deb followed by a scotch tasting. Even though I'm not a scotch drinker, I wished I was well enough to participate, but having already had some paracetamol, I dared not. It seemed like a lot of fun though. </p><p>On Friday, Steven took me out to a favourite breakfast location (which we did every day, actually), and then later to a wedding of two of his dear friends (Denise and Jim), neither of whom I knew. Both bride and groom sought me out and told me how glad they were that I could come. There was shape-note singing, morris dancing and contra-dancing and a fantastic time was had by all - especially me! I also got to meet more lovely people including a sweet, sweet gentleman by the name of Mal. </p><p> On Saturday we drove off to a little township which has a cafe in a cave, explored some antique stores and enjoyed the river before going to the arts museum (very cool) and then saw a documentary about Joan Rivers (fascinating) and finishing with dinner at Pizza Luce's (with a fun story attached). </p><p> Sunday was July 4th. So we started the day with a traditional block party at Matt and Deb's with a children's bike parade (or race), more morris dancing, a jazz band, singing and much neighbourly entertainment. I also managed to squeeze in a chance to run off and meet another friend, Yevgeny, for coffee where we talked about scuba diving and the Con I hadn't made time to attend). We ended the day with dinner with Michael and daughters followed by fireworks. By this point I was taking painkillers every 4 hours just to be able to talk, so I was getting a bit worried. </p><p> Monday we'd planned to go to the Taste of Minnesota festival, but I asked instead if I could go to a doctor (after talking with my travel insurance people first). The doctor was lovely, ran some tests and advised me to take various over-the-counter drugs. They helped immensely, and made it possible for me to attend the sea shanty singing that evening (although the drugs weren't quite good enough to allow me to sing). </p><p> The next day was a day of sad farewells. I felt so welcome and adopted into Steven's crowd that I would have loved to stay in Minneapolis for another month! However, it was time for my next adventure, so Steven drove Mal and I to the airport and he headed off to work. Mal I and had some minor fun getting through security, caught our planes in different directions, and thus far, lived happily ever after. </p><p> Two weeks on, and I might be over whatever it was that made me sick, too. </p> jarich 2010-07-21T01:30:30+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 30 June 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40433?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 30 June 2010. Allison, Patrick, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on Parrot packages for Debian experimental</li><li>seems like a good idea to do that before the 2.6 supported release</li><li>there was also a request for Rakudo packages</li><li>not sure if I'm the best person to do it</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I'm sure we should package Rakudo Star</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Debian had a packager for those, but I haven't looked at the packages</li><li>this'd be an early run of what we'll do with Rakudo Star</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>we're not quite ready for packaging that yet</li><li>maybe a couple of weeks</li><li>finished the <code>List</code> and <code>Iterator</code> types for the #30 release</li><li>adjusted Rakudo's <code>Associative</code> and <code>Positional</code> roles</li><li>much cleaner implementation now</li><li>that'll require a few small spec changes</li><li>redid Rakudo's container types</li><li>more robust</li><li>preparing for autovivification of hashes and arrays</li><li>expect to finish those in the next couple of days</li><li>there was no container model previously; the code was consequently crufty</li><li>lots of cleanup of incorrect assumptions</li><li>Rakudo lists are now properly lazy</li><li>comment syntax fixed</li><li>ROADMAP updated</li><li>fixed the meaning of <code>Nil</code>; it's defined, not undefined</li><li>added the sink prefix (?)</li><li>fixed setting of <code>$!</code> </li><li>started fixing bugs and closing tickets on Monday, did 15 or 20</li><li>mostly already fixed in the previous couple of weeks</li><li>looking at the implementation of the series operator</li><li>spec is self-contradictory or ambiguous or both</li><li>waiting for Larry's clarification</li><li>fixed a bug in <code>$*ARGFILES</code> </li><li>had a nice contribution of that implementation last week</li><li>that behavior works on any set of files, not just those on the command line</li><li>working on autoviv</li><li>have some regex backtracking bugs to fix</li><li>will work on closures after that</li><li>put together three new YAPC presentations</li><li>the Rakudo Star presentation will become a video cast or a blog post or both</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on a slew of Parrot optimizations for Rakudo</li><li>have a few more to go</li><li>might have to create a Rakudo branch temporarily</li><li>will try to help merge the new GC</li><li>working on a metamodel for Parrot objects, informed by Perl 6 and Moose</li></ul> chromatic 2010-07-03T08:13:30+00:00 journal Modern Perl: The (Draft) Book http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40423?from=rss <p>This took longer than I expected, but <a href="http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2010/06/modern-perl-the-book-the-draft.html">the draft of the Modern Perl book is available for review</a>. I'm especially interested in hearing from people who don't consider themselves expert Perl 5 programmers. The goal of the book is to explain how Perl 5 works (and how to write Perl 5 effectively) to help novices become adepts.</p> chromatic 2010-06-28T23:43:33+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 16 June 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40419?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 16 June 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>documented <code>TOP</code> (again), and explained how parsing is initiated and how it actually works</li><li>series operator (<code>...</code>) now picks a monotonic function when using single characters as endpoints</li><li>STD can now catch duplicates involving <code>proto</code>s as well as <code>only</code>s</li><li>STD no longer advises removal of parens on spaceless <code>sub()</code> declaration</li><li>mostly advised sorear and pmichaud</li><li>Stefan is finishing the boostrap of the STD parser</li><li>also working on adding a parallel NFA and DFA engine</li><li>no, he doesn't want to generate all the states in advance</li><li>it works faster lazily</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on chroot environments with something more secure than chroot</li><li>relevant to building Parrot packages</li><li>looking at some bugs for Will</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Rakudo developers decided not to make extra special effort to make a June release of Rakudo Star</li><li>the calendar works against us</li><li>the new date for the release is July 29</li><li>we're I comfortable with hitting that target</li><li>we won't be happy with the results of moving heaven and earth to release in June</li><li>there are lots of advantages</li><li>one disadvantage is not having Rakudo Star at YAPC::NA</li><li>one big advantage is using the supported Parrot 2.6 release as the basis</li><li>I'll write a post outlining the plan in the next couple of days</li><li>otherwise working on lists and interators in Perl 6 and Rakudo</li><li>after deciding to make iterators immutable, Larry and I realized that solves many problems</li><li>everything works out as plain as day after that</li><li>very happy with that design</li><li>the incorrect assumptions of the old model were pervasive</li><li>replacing the old pieces is taking a while, which is no surprise</li><li>this approach feels right though</li><li>the new branch does things no previous version could do</li><li>slices work much better, for example</li><li>metaoperators work properly</li><li>map is lazy</li><li>slurpy arguments in lists are lazy by default</li><li>no weird binding or action at a distance problems</li><li>plenty of changes to <code>Associative</code> and <code>Positional</code> roles</li><li>those are now super clean and may be lazy</li><li>more features work</li><li>~30 failing tests (not test files, just tests) now, ~500 last night</li><li>most of the current failures are minor</li><li>will try to merge the branch before the release</li><li>replacing lots of ugly code with fewer lines of elegant code</li><li>Jonathan and others have worked on lots of other pieces</li><li>adding plenty of new features</li><li>looking forward to tomorrow's release</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>editing the Rakudo book</li><li>moving the Rakudo release date may let us have a printed book available about the same time</li><li>depends on how much there is left to write</li></ul> chromatic 2010-06-26T17:07:30+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 09 June 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40415?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 09 June 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>not much spec change this week</li><li>figured out a syntax for a regex block to return more than one cursor</li><li>based on <code>gather</code>/<code>take</code> </li><li>in STD hacking, continued to assist Stefan O'Rear in getting STD bootstrapped via viv</li><li>now that it's bootstrapped, we're refactoring things that make sense now</li><li>we're now starting to move bits of Cursor code from Perl 5 into Perl 6</li><li>refactoring the grammar for sanity of design</li><li>started upgrading STD to normal Perl 6 syntax where it previously catered to <code>gimme5</code>'s limitations</li><li>for example, switched STD's old<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.&lt;_from&gt;</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.&lt;_pos&gt;</code> hash lookups to using<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.from</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.pos</code> accessors</li><li>started the prep work for moving <code>EXPR</code> out of <code>STD</code> to make it generally available to any grammar wanting operator precedence</li><li>in STD parsing, made Perl 5 <code>$&lt;</code> detection have a longer token to avoid confusion with match variables</li><li>STD no longer attempts two-terms detection on <code>infix_circumfix_meta_operator</code> </li><li>STD now parses <code>&gt;&gt;R~&lt;&lt;</code> correctly, or at least dwimmily</li><li>STD doesn't complain about P5isms in <code>printf</code> formats like <code>"%{$count}s"</code> </li><li>STD was parsing<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>/m</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>/s</code> with the opposite semantics</li><li> <code>termish</code> now localizes <code>$*MULTINESS</code> in its scope so that inner declarations aren't accidentally multified</li><li>STD now carps about <code>package Foo;</code> as a Perl 5 construct</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>talked to Chris Shiflett, a PHP developer, on someone from the PHP community to sit on the Parrot board</li><li>will be in the US for a few weeks</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on list simplification</li><li>had a couple of breakthrough ideas on Monday</li><li>working on the implementation now</li><li>worked out inversion lists for character class matching in regexes</li><li>will make them faster, especially with long ranges of character classes</li><li>fixed a half-dozen tickets in RT</li><li>fixed Rakudo hash constructors</li><li>fixed an intermittent bug with colon-pair signatures</li><li>two possible parses exist in STD, but we removed an unneeded one in Rakudo</li><li>fixed a bug with Parrot's <code>exit</code> opcode</li><li>NQP and PAST needed an update not to cheat with PASM constants</li><li>I fixed that too</li><li>Vasily added multisub and multimethod support to NQP, that was a big plus</li><li>fixed the <code>**</code> quantifier in regexes to understand surrounding whitespace</li><li>regex engine tried to match beyond the end of a string, so I added guards for that</li><li>will work on lists furiously before the next release</li><li>I don't think it'll take long</li><li>closures are next, hope to have those in place by the weekend</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>released a new version of Pod::PseudoPod::LaTeX to support the various books in progress</li></ul> chromatic 2010-06-24T12:24:33+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 02 June 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40410?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 02 June 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>mostly, I supported sorear in bootstrapping STD to use <code>viv</code> instead of <code>gimme5</code> </li><li>his stage 2 and stage 3 now output identical Perl 5 versions of STD</li><li>produces a huge amount of warnings</li><li>appears to require Perl 5.12 at the moment</li><li>working on both of those</li><li>S03 refines hyper dwimminess to be more like APL, with modular semantics</li><li>S02 refines <code>Blob</code>s to simply be immutable <code>Buf</code>s, with similar generic characteristics</li><li>S02 now describes native <code>blob</code> types</li><li>implemented post-declaration checks for <code>BEGIN</code> and <code>use</code>, since those can't wait for end of file</li><li>STD no longer loses existing bindings when we go to a sublanguage</li><li>STD now uses <code>$*GOAL</code> variable only as informative, never as a "stopper"</li><li>instead, we create a <code>&lt;stopper&gt;</code> rule for <code>$*GOAL</code> if necessary</li><li>can check for that only, instead of that or <code>$*GOAL</code> </li><li>answering lots of questions on how STD and <code>viv</code> work besides that</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>did a lot of research on graph color algorithms for register usage algorithms</li><li>will finish my finals on Monday</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>trying to herd the discussion of dynop libraries</li><li>a recent branch to close an old ticket broke a lot of assumptions</li><li>some bugs have become more visible because of these changes</li><li>hope to get that cleaned up this week</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I liked your suggestion of bringing back the <code>getstderr</code> and related opcodes</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>trying to resurrect Partcl</li><li>stuck on a TT #389 closing issue</li><li>not sure how to fix that, the way things are now</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on the iterator and list design</li><li>brainstorming the implementation</li><li>will implement somethine one way or another this week</li><li>people keep implementing workarounds for the current system</li><li>they'll bite us eventually</li><li>Moritz and I worked on making the regex engine returning real Perl 6 objects</li><li>that mostly works</li><li>exposes some places where lists don't work exactly right</li><li>the workarounds there made me replan the list and iterator implementation</li><li>answered some questions online</li><li>Jonathan added a better backtrace algorithm for Rakudo</li><li>reports Perl 6 source lines instead of PIR lines</li><li>I'll review his code</li><li>think I can borrow it for NQP for all HLLs</li><li>Jonathan reports that it was a lot easier in NQP than PIR</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>trying to answer a few Parrot design questions</li><li>looking at the continuation of design from Perl 1 - 4 to Perl 5 and Perl 6</li><li>hope to have coding time soon</li></ul> chromatic 2010-06-22T01:12:29+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 26 May 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40408?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 26 May 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li><nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:()</code> syntax is now always signature</li><li>we now use <code>foofix:[...]</code> as the general op form instead of <code>foofix:(...)</code> </li><li>refactored the sematics of<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:nth</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:x</code> </li><li><nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:nth()</code> now only ever takes a monotonically increasing list</li><li>S03 now explains how "not-raising" works on <code>!=</code> and <code>ne</code> </li><li>it now basically matches the intuitions of an English speaker via HOP definition of negate metaop</li><li>STD sometimes didn't require semi between statements</li><li>statement modifiers are expression terminators but not valid statement terminators</li><li>an unexpected statement modifier word like <code>if</code> could terminate one statement and start another</li><li>fixed up backslashes in character classes to allow <code>\s</code> etc and reject <code>\u</code> etc</li><li>STD was accidentally using the same lexpad for different multis</li><li>Cursor now treats<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:()</code> on name extension as a signature always, never as a categorical</li><li>we shouldn't introduce the stopper for circumfix until we're in the circumfix, or we can't use the same char on both ends</li><li>placeholder messages error messages are now much more informative and correct</li><li>we now disallow use of placeholder after same variable has been used as a non-placeholder, even for an outer reference</li><li>renamed add_macro (which it doesn't) to add_categorical (which it does)</li><li>participating frequently in discussions on semantics both on irc and p6l</li><li>working closely with sorear++ as he brings viv closer to bootstrapping, yay!</li><li>soon can bootstrap past gimme5</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on Pynie this week in my limited spare time</li><li>one goal is to generate the parser directly from the Python grammar</li><li>wrote a small, lightweight PEG parser which generates a match tree from the Python 3 grammar</li><li>can generate a lexer directly</li><li>right now it creates a parse tree</li><li>looks similar to the match nodes of NQP-rx</li><li>dumps out a tree to the PIR parser</li><li>working on PaFo elections for next year, but trying to delegate those</li><li>will have more time after June 7</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on Perl 6 advent tests</li><li>many more people are doing more work than me</li><li>liasing with Rakudo folks for any important Parrot bugs before the Rakudo Star release</li><li>my current direction there is "don't break anything"</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>sorear added hash flattening to NQP</li><li>lots of work on closures in PAST and NQP</li><li>they properly clone</li><li>fixes some lexical problems</li><li>need to get that to work in Rakudo</li><li>that's tougher; Rakudo has to wrap Parrot subs</li><li>wrapper object needs cloning as well, along with its attributes</li><li>we'll add a new PAST node type to help</li><li>that node understands contexts</li><li>essentially a way to add void context optimizations to your AST</li><li>that solves many problems in Rakudo beyond closures</li><li>added a setting into NQP along with its test suite</li><li>not automatically loaded, but available</li><li>contains standard hash and array methods</li><li>Parrot's ops2c project uses those</li><li>other people can update and enhance that setting as necessary</li><li>NQP also has the ability to parse type names</li><li>NQP doesn't do anything with them yet</li><li>eventually they'll allow the use of multis</li><li>cleaning up some NQP bugs regarding lexicals and package storage of subs</li><li>Bruce Keeler enabled variable interpolations in regexes</li><li>working on some refactorings to simplify that approach</li><li>works in NQP and Rakudo now</li><li>that's a feature we've never had before</li><li>Rakudo's REPL now works better, thanks to sorear</li><li>HLLCompiler now written more in NQP as part of that</li><li>NQP now can do <code>eval</code> </li><li>NQP remembers lexicals in interactive mode now</li><li>adding that to Rakudo is more complex</li><li>working on that</li><li>pleased with the progress on #perl6</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>reviewing long term plans for GC and Lorito</li><li>should have more time free soon</li></ul> chromatic 2010-06-20T19:40:02+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 19 May 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40401?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 19 May 2010. Larry, Will, and chromatic attended. Patrick added his notes later.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>S03 makes more explicit that doctrine that <code>~~</code> topicalizes, and removes smartmatch table fossils that automatically fall out from that</li><li>S05 renames 'accent' to 'mark' for better Unicode conformance</li><li><nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:a</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:aa</code> changed to<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:m</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:mm</code> </li><li>S05 disrequires retroactive semantics on<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:samecase</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:samemark</code> </li><li>the method form must now explicitly add case or mark modifiers to the pattern</li><li>regularized <code>mm//</code> to <code>ms//</code> to avoid confusion with new<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:m</code> ignoremark option</li><li>STD now does a bit better at diagnosing bogus <code>??!!</code> constructs of various sorts</li><li>STD now correctly adds operators to symbol tables as subs</li><li> <code>CORE.setting</code> now has protos of all the operators so they can be recognized as subs too</li><li>Cursor now canonicalize operator names in the symbol table</li><li>btw, not quite like specced</li><li>STD now reads user's mind on '<code>Str $toto</code>' to intuit missing declarator</li><li>STD now properly diagnoses a typename between routine declarator and sub name</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on code for Carl Masak, trying to get his poker code example running on Rakudo</li><li>both fun and frustrating</li><li>some stuff doesn't quite work yet</li><li>going through the Advent examples</li><li>adding them to spectests</li><li>make sure we won't regress on such public examples</li><li>other people are helping with that now</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>will get back to editing the Rakudo book soon</li><li>hope to have it in print by YAPC, but no guarantee</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>fixed closures in NQP, as a precursor for fixing them in Rakudo</li><li>worked with sorear on REPL in Rakudo and PCT in general</li><li>ported the NQP "standard library" done by japhb++, bacek++, and many others into the nqp-rx repository and made it part of the standard build sequence for nqp and Parrot</li><li>decided we need a new "context sensitive" node type in PAST, will be used to create proper closures and to handle sink context</li><li>worked with bacek on adding better multimethod support to PAST and nqp-rx</li><li>discovered a problem with lexical subs in NQP being automatically entered into the package namespace (and some existing code relying on this behavior)</li><li>did some initial fixes to at least get things entered properly, but a complete fix may require a deprecation cycle</li><li>plan to review others' patches this week</li><li>plan to fix REPL, closures, and sink context in Rakudo (since those are currently large pain points)</li><li>plan to work on loops and iterators after that</li></ul> chromatic 2010-06-16T21:38:09+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 12 May 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40400?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 12 May 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, and Will attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>clarified usage of brackets around infixes</li><li>added various 128-bit types to the spec; we might make them arbitrarily extensible via role</li><li>at least LLVM could support this, even to non-powers-of-two sizes</li><li>modernized the paleolithic grammatical category description in S02</li><li>STD now uses double-quote rules for interpolating <code>@foo[]</code> into regex</li><li>STD now gives better message on <code>1__3</code> </li><li>added the specced 128-bit types to CORE.setting</li><li>added <code>minmax</code> function to CORE.setting</li><li>implemented <code>circumfix:&#171;X Y&#187;</code> as grammar derivation</li><li>currently only allows a <code> &gt;&gt; inside</code></li><li>now also recognizes <code>foofix:("\x[face]")</code> and <code>foofix:("\c[YOUR CHARACTER HERE]")</code> without actually evaluating</li><li>playing with factoring <code>yaml</code> out of <code>gimme5</code>, since <code>viv</code> is not likely to go that route.</li><li>mostly just answered a lot of questions on irc</li><li>egged people on about concurrency issues</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>thought on handling closures properly</li><li>have a solution, just need some time to implement</li><li>discussion on changes to CodeString</li><li>work on compiler toolkit to avoid CodeString, using StringBuilder instead where possible, in PCT, NQP, and rakudo. Pretty easy, no downstream projects block on a deprecation issue</li><li>after that, lists</li><li>also been answering questions on interactive mode (REPL) for rakudo et al. (the issue with losing lexicals)</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>resolved the git conversation pretty well (for Parrot's repo migration)</li><li>worked on a pure PEG parser (following the paper), straight PIR, single day; now self-parsing. Interesting project, is lightweight. currently has memoization, but that might not be right for us because of backtracking. With some more effort, could probably handle EBNF form (useful for python)</li><li>could be setup for developer status for Debian which will improve our packaging status for Debian and Ubuntu</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Parrot CodeString performance improvements</li><li>we're definitely faster in branch, but some feedback from pmichaud should help us clean up the API a bit as well, look for those to hit trunk in the next few days</li><li>Parrot makefile deps cleanup</li></ul> chromatic 2010-06-16T01:47:02+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 05 May 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40351?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 05 May 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>various spec updates, some major</li><li>removed <code>p5=&gt;</code> description because it's not supported in core</li><li>deleted <code>self:sort</code> construct because self isn't a real syntactic category</li><li>explained Perl patterns in terms of PEGs, and spec'ed tiebreaking rules explicitly</li><li>last but not least, finally purveyed the long-threatened revamp of proto to keep routine and method semantics similar</li><li>they all now work much more like the multiple dispatch semantics currently used by STD, where we always call the proto first</li><li>the proto is then always in charge of the actual multiple dispatch; it can of course delegate that</li><li>and the default for a null body corresponds closely to current semantics</li><li>in hacking news, the lexer generator mislaid any alternative that was a bare<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.</code> pattern, so cursor_fate never called its alternative, oops</li><li>took me a long time to run that one down, because it resulted in a horrendous backtrack causing mysterious misplaced errors</li><li>revamped character class parsing to be more helpful and correct</li><li>STD now check a normal regex bracket's innards for old-school character class, and warns if found</li><li>added a<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.looks_like_cclass</code> method to Cursor to detect most accidental uses of P5 ranges</li><li>some valid P6 brackets will complain, but the workarounds are easy</li><li>just put whitespace on both ends is one way</li><li>removed a few of these old-school-ish character classes from STD</li><li>changed<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:tr</code> language to<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:cc</code> language since character classes share it</li><li>(translation pays more attention to ordering, but the language is the same)</li><li>turned out parsing character classes discovered issues in STD; various character classes needed to backslash <code>#</code> that would otherwise be a comment</li><li>to that end, we now allow <code>\#</code> in character classes instead of misparsing as unspace</li><li>if we find an invalid <code>-</code> in a regex, we now presume we're in an old-school character class and fail with a sorry instead of a panic to give the character class code a shot at it</li><li>STD now uses <code>~</code> syntax for regex brackets to set <code>$*GOAL</code> correctly</li><li>cleaned up recursive panic detection; it was possible to get both false positives and negatives before</li><li>STD shouldn't use 'note' to emit a panic inside a suppose because that leaks the message that should be trapped</li><li>STD now suppresses duplicate <code>sorry</code> messages more correctly</li><li> <code>sorry</code> no longer uses <code>panic</code> in a supposition, but dies directly to throw the exception to the suppose's try block</li><li>STD now allows subscripts on regex variables so <code>$x[0]</code> isn't taken as a character class; still needs speccing</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>can we make them consistent?</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>historically S05 has allowed bare arrays to mean interpolation</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>we've never had a working implementation of that</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>a bare <code>@</code> would be illegal</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>it's currently illegal</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>you'd have to backslash it to match part of an email address</li><li>it's not like the <code>@</code> alternations are a big deal one way or another</li><li>that'd be a little more consistent</li><li>I forced it to think of the sigil as <code>$</code> than what it really is</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>after seeing how Jonathan et all did interpolation for quoted strings, I thought we should do the same thing in regexes</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>STD now has a partial fix to prevent leakage of<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>::T</code> from role signatures</li><li>unfortunately, the current fix will lose signatures of file-scoped generic roles</li><li>this probably has to do with not knowing whether we're really going to want a new pad; unfortunately we'd have to look ahead to know that currently</li><li>various other minor tweaks and bug fixes in STD and Cursor</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>mostly responding to messages and reports</li><li>should be able to get back to coding full-time and online for the next week</li><li>plan to resolve the list and closure issues with NQP and Rakudo</li><li>will answer other questions and try to keep other people productive</li><li>planning for the Rakudo Star release on June</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>busy with the last week of classes</li><li>spent most of it writing a little language with PCT</li><li>it was easy to use and easy to swap the stages of PCT</li><li>I remembered what Patrick did with LOLCODE</li><li>also had a discussion of source code control systems</li><li>next week should be more productive</li><li>need to work more closely with Debian packagers to get packages into Debian</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>cleaning out as many deprecations in Parrot as possible</li><li>trying to improve the speed of CodeString after the immutable STRINGs merge</li><li>bundling lots of little concats helps</li><li>hope to merge in an optimization branch for that by the weekend</li><li>want to make that faster or less memory intensive</li><li>may require the use of a new StringBuilder for Parrot</li><li>hopefully will result in a faster Rakudo build</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I've never seen CodeString take a long time</li><li>unless you run into memory problems</li><li><p> * discussion of the StringBuilder PMC *</p></li> </ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>still working on optimizations, particularly CodeString</li><li>looking at more PBC and PBC-building optimizations</li><li>PBC size went down dramatically and startup improved for Rakudo</li><li>should have that much faster for the 2.4 release</li><li>will poke at GC tasks starting next week</li></ul> chromatic 2010-05-10T06:07:34+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 28 April 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40338?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 28 April 2010. Larry, Allison, Jerry, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>caught up on a week's worth of backlog</li><li>made a few spec tweaks</li><li>discussed them with other people</li><li>trying to make error messages more awesome in STD</li><li>working on the ability to parse the insides of character classes</li><li>STD doesn't like parsing itself recursively there</li><li>need to iron out a few things</li><li>enum names can now be variables</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Debian packages ready to ship to Debian sponsors</li><li>putting together a list of GC tasks</li><li>cleaned out the existing page, have the big things listed</li><li>trying to decide which tasks to do first</li><li>doing a lot of reading and research</li><li>my little language project is due on Monday</li><li>HLLCompiler was enormously useful</li><li>will start working on the GC stuff next week</li><li>should also start a fresh pass through the ticket queue</li><li>added a workaround for the final remaining TT #389 bug</li><li>Jonathan had a test case</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>tried to focus on getting Rakudo blockers removed</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>spent some time getting Rakudo to work with trunk</li><li>will need a Rakudo guts hacker for the last part</li><li>worked on the compact_string revamp branch with Vasily</li><li>merged now</li><li>that makes trunk about 12% faster than the 2.3.0 release</li><li>will work on a few Rakudo profiles once it works with trunk again</li><li>expect at least a 5% performance improvement there</li><li>have some other ideas, but won't do them without profiling first</li><li>came up with a scheme to reduce PBC size by coalescing strings</li><li>Peter Lobsinger is exploring that</li></ul> chromatic 2010-05-02T00:27:42+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 21 April 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40332?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 21 April 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Will, Jerry, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>been under the weather, so didn't get much done other than keeping up with questions</li><li>S05 now allows negative quantifier ranges on reversible patterns</li><li>S02 now defines the term <code>now</code> to return the current instant</li><li>like <code>rand</code> and <code>self</code>, it does not parse as a function, since it never takes arguments</li><li>we now specify what kinds of math are allowed on instants and durations</li><li>improved error message on attempt to use old-school backreferences in regexes</li><li>STD now implements the <code>now</code> term and several other time-related names</li><li>we now allow enum names to be "constant variables" so that a class enum can declare an accessor</li><li>thinking alot about a better unification of the semantics of protos</li><li>this may also solve the current ambiguity in the meaning of postfix parens</li><li>in any case, this is for post Rakudo *</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>mainly worked on packaging for Debian and Ubuntu before the release</li><li>closed TT #389, no methods in namespaces</li><li>collecting thoughts on what we need next from the GC</li><li>we've done a lot of small cleanups</li><li>now we need to solve some persistent problems</li><li>might need to make some fundamental changes, like reducing copying</li><li>coming up on my final week of classes, so lots of work there coming up</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>updated a spectest</li><li>minor ticket wrangling in Rakudo's RT queue</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>GSoC will make its acceptance announcements soon</li><li>expect TPF will get 10 slots</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>reviewing Rakudo's current state</li><li>made a couple of minor NQP patches</li><li>reviewing patches, especially from Moritz and Bruce Keeler</li><li>should check them in, probably with some refactorings</li><li>hope to work on the <code>List</code> implementation, especially laziness and context</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>fixed as much of line numbering as I found broken</li><li>working on branch merges</li><li>still looking at optimizations</li><li>will focus most energy this month on the sweep-free GC</li><li>hope to encourage other people to work on identified optimizations</li><li>will review Solomon Foster's Mandlebrot example, especially with regard to performance</li></ul> chromatic 2010-04-28T22:20:35+00:00 journal Facebook privacy - Instant personalisation and connections http://use.perl.org/~pjf/journal/40325?from=rss <p> <b>Facebook privacy - Instant personalisation and connections</b> <br> Facebook has been announcing a number of changes recently, many of which will impact your privacy. While you may not have seen them hit your account yet, they will almost certainly do so soon. </p><p> <b>Connections</b> <br> In the past, Facebook had a whole bunch of free-form fields for things like location and interests. You could put practically anything you wanted in these, and show them to your friends. For things like interests, there was some basic search features, but they weren't very advanced. </p><p> These free-form fields are now changing into "connections". Like existing fan pages, connections represent an actual relationship, rather than just text. Also, just like fan pages, they're <i>public</i>, so you can see all the people who like <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cooking/113970468613229">cooking</a>, or <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mushrooms/108398075857821">mushrooms</a>. The new connection pages include extra information including text from wikipedia, and an automatic search through both your friends and all public posts to look for content related to that subject. The same applies for your location (hometown and current), your employers, and education! </p><p> From an application developer's standpoint, this is a great change. The existing free-form fields were next to useless. From a privacy standpoint, this is an interesting change. It's great to be able to find friends who share your common interests, but because connections are <i>public</i>, you're not just revealing that information to your friends. You're revealing it to the whole wide world. For any user who just accepted the defaults the defaults, I now know the city where you live, who you work for, where you went to school, and what you enjoy doing, in addition to who your friends are, and what you look like. </p><p> Luckily, you don't have to convert your interests and locations to connections. However if you don't, those parts of your profile will simply cease to exist. Facebook would <i>really</i> like you to convert to connections, and you'll get a scary looking message about parts of your profile being removed if you don't. Of course, not all of your interests will map to new connections, and those that don't will be discarded in any case, so whatever you do you <i>will</i> be losing information, including potentially the dates of your employment and education. For me, that's not a big deal, but it might be for you. If you <i>do</i> want to continue listing your interests in a free-form and private fashion, I recommend you simply add them to your "about me/bio" section. </p><p> If you <i>do</i> convert your interests (and Facebook will ask you to do so sooner or later) then keep in mind that these (along with your existing fan pages) are <i>very</i> public. Your friends, family, employer, potential employer, applications, websites, enemies, and random people on the Internet will all be able to see them. If you don't want that, your only recourse is to remove those connections. </p><p> In theory, you can also edit your birthday, and change your age to under 18, which <a href="http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=17134">limits what Facebook will publicly disclose about you</a>, although your connections are still very broadly published. Unfortunately, as I discovered the hard way, you can only transform from an adult into a minor <i>once</i>, so if you've edited your birthday in the past you may not be able to change it now. In fact, if you've already converted to the new connection system, then your birthday will no longer show up as something you <i>can</i> edit, so make sure it's set to a date you're happy with before going through the conversion. </p><p> <b>Instant Personalisation</b> <br> Facebook is rolling out changes to allow websites to automatically access your "publicly available information", which includes name, profile picture, gender, friends, and "connections". </p><p> What's that, I hear you ask? Are these the same connections that I just added to my profile during the conversion process? They sure are! I bet you just <i>love</i> the idea that when you visit a website, they not only <i>automatically</i> know your name, your location, and your friends, but also a detailed list of your interests, activities, education, and employer! </p><p> Luckily, you can turn instant personalisation off. There's a new ticky box on the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=privacy&amp;section=applications">applications and websites privacy page</a>. For some users, this is on by default, and for others it's off, and I'm not yet sure how that's determined. If it's not ticked now, and you later go through the connections conversion process, then I recommend you go back to double check it's still unchcked. </p><p> Having ensured that instant personalisation is disabled, I bet you're feeling pretty safe. However there's a great little clause if you read the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=17105">fine print</a>: <i>To prevent your friends from sharing any of your information with an instant personalization partner, block the application...</i> </p><p> That's right, your friends can share your information. This actually isn't anything new; applications your friends have installed <a href="http://pjf.id.au/blog/?position=599">can also view your information</a>, but you probably don't want them sharing your info with the instant personalisation sites either. </p><p> So, in addition to unticking a box, you probably want to visit the applications <a href="http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=17105">listed in the FAQ entry</a> and block them, too. </p><p> While you're at it, I recommend you look at your <a href="http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php?v=allowed">list of authorised applications</a> as well, and remove any ones that you no longer need. It's <i>very</i> easy to authorise an app these days (in fact, commenting or liking this blog post will do so!), so you might be surprised to see what's there. </p><p> Finally, if you want to protect against accidental leakage of your profile information, consider <i>logging out of Facebook</i> before browsing other websites. Sure, this may be a pain in the arse, but Facebook can't share your information if you're not logged in. </p><p> <b>Conference Talk at OS Bridge</b> <br> I'll be <a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/425">talking more about Facebook privacy</a>, along with some practical demonstration of tools, at the <a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/">Open Source Bridge</a> conference from the 1st-4th June 2010. </p> pjf 2010-04-23T06:31:18+00:00 journal Bob Jacobsen interview on FLOSS Weekly http://use.perl.org/~merlyn/journal/40324?from=rss Last week, I interviewed Bob Jacobsen for FLOSS Weekly. Bob used Perl's Artistic 1.0 license on some Java code to manage model trains. The code was later patented by an Oregon-based company(!) and then Bob got sued(!!) for Bob distributing the other company's patented code(!!!). The good part of the story is that this is the first test at the US Federal Appeals Court level for an open source license to be enforceable even if no money exchanges hands, and... we won! <p> Bob spent a lot of time and money on the case though. Listen to <a href="http://twit.tv/floss117">the podcast</a> and contribute to <a href="http://jmri.sourceforge.net/donations.shtml">his legal defense</a> if you care about open source.</p> merlyn 2010-04-23T03:55:11+00:00 journal Top-level namespace pollution is evil http://use.perl.org/~belg4mit/journal/40323?from=rss <p>Why's it evil? Because not everyone hunts for modules by using a search engine. Because you're less likely to see that you're needlessly reinventing the wheel. <em>et cetera et cetera</em></p><p>People need to read <a href="http://perldoc.perl.org/perlmodstyle.html#What's-in-a-name?">perlmodstyle</a> and think before they upload. Indeed, PAUSE should exact a pound of flesh or some other substitute before accepting top-level modules.</p><p>While we're at it, maybe we can thunk people with a clue-by-four who don't include a module description, etc.</p> belg4mit 2010-04-22T22:57:26+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 14 April 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40318?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 14 April 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>on p6l, did a bit of bikeshed paint removal with regard to hyphens vs underscores</li><li>S02 now explicitly disallows both whitespace and unspace in top level of an interpolation</li><li>per spec change, when STD is parsing an interpolation inside quotes and looking for a possible postfix, we now presume that a backslash belongs to the quotes and is not an unspace</li><li>in the src/perl6 directory, renamed all Perl 6<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.pm</code> files to<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.pm6</code> to avoid confusion</li><li>this was necessary because the implementation of STD translates Perl 6 back to the corresponding Perl 5</li><li>the ambiguity was causing problems with tools such as <code>NYTProf</code> </li><li> <code>Cursor.pmc</code> now prefers<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.pm6</code> over<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.pm</code> in any particular directory when searching for Perl 6 code</li><li>as usual lately, most of my hacking work was in improving the human interface of the parser</li><li>STD now distinguishes two final messages: "<code>Parse failed</code>" vs "<code>Check failed</code>"</li><li>STD now warns on attempts to smartmatch with <code>True</code> or <code>False</code> </li><li>STD now distinguishes continuable-but-fatal "sorry" messages from immediately fatal "panic" messages</li><li>sorry messages will eventually fail at check time</li><li>changed many of STD's semantic errors to use sorry messages when the parse state is not affected</li><li>modified moritz++'s conflict marker patch to be more like the Clang compiler's behavior</li><li>conflict markers now emit a "sorry" message and continues parsing one side of the conflict</li><li>also fixed a buglet that prevented it from processing the conflict marker if first thing in the file</li><li>while fixing the vws (vertical white space) rule for that, also changed it so that extra lines are now eaten with <code>\V*\v</code> for consistency</li><li>it had be using <code>\N*\v</code> </li><li>gimme5 now supports pointing to both ends of missing goal message</li><li>STD's "<code>Couldn't find final<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</code>" messages now use that capability to point to both ends of the error</li><li>standard quotes now also use the ~ compositor to set the goal and get that behavior</li><li>STD will now dwim <code>&lt;&lt;op&gt;&gt;</code> ("Texas hypers") better even if <code>op</code> contains angles</li><li>suppressed confusing backtracking on <code>~&lt;&lt;</code> that produced a misleading quotewords error</li><li>some other patches</li><li>CORE.setting now recognizes the '<code>note</code>' function</li><li>gimme5 now translates <code>note</code> to <code>print STDERR</code> </li><li>cleaned up some unneeded locmesses</li><li>Actions.pm now handles prefix metaops without spewing spurious yaml dumps</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on TT #389</li><li>the actual fix was about two lines</li><li>spent a lot of time fixing tests around it</li><li>didn't like the original two-line fix</li><li>fixed it in IMCC by passing along the<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:nsentry</code> flag</li><li>NQP-rx still depends on that feature</li><li>I understood from Patrick that NQP-rx doesn't need that feature</li><li>don't want to launch that before the 2.3 release</li><li>worked on a lot of smaller issues</li><li>worked on the Parrot Developer Virtual Summit</li><li>will talk about some process changes more, as there are details to work out</li><li>will work on GC as the next priority</li><li>useful for Rakudo in general and Parrot concurrency</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>catching up on mail and tickets</li><li>should get back to coding in the next couple of days</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on the immutable strings branch</li><li>need a couple of changes in the Rakudo binder</li><li>now it's time to convince everyone else it's a worthwhile design change</li><li>going to work on bugfixes</li><li>will try to land the constant string cache</li><li>otherwise, added some optimizations</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on Partcl</li><li>fixed a Parrot bug that broke Rakudo</li><li>does Rakudo need TT #389 in 2.3?</li></ul> chromatic 2010-04-21T04:09:26+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 07 April 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40306?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 07 April 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Jerry, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>clarified that object identity from <code>WHICH</code> may not be a mundane value type</li><li>instead object id's are of type <code>ObjAt</code> to avoid type name collisions.</li><li>rewrote misleading description of "thunk"</li><li>made some clarifications of the desired semantics of buffers</li><li>Buf is primarily a role for dealing compact, unsigned integer arrays in a stringy way</li><li>but a Buf may be instantiated with other numeric types as well.</li><li>removed bogus mentions of Buf8, Buf16, Buf32; only the native buf types are sized that way</li><li>STD now actually parses the insides of <code>tr///</code> and carps about malformed ranges</li><li>labels are now stored symbolically as constants rather than types</li><li>so no coercion routine is added for the name, so it doesn't collide with the function namespace</li><li>labels are now constants with a unique label type to prevent confusion with ordinary constants</li><li>module subcompilation now reports the name of the file it's compiling</li><li>improved various error messages regarding <code>foreach</code>, <code>!!op</code>, <code>$!{}</code>, <code>EOF</code>, and missing punctuation after blocks</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on line number reporting in HLLs</li><li>no ticket to go on, no good examples</li><li>didn't make much progress, but didn't have much time</li><li>sounds like Christoph and chromatic are working on it</li><li>might look at TT #389</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>you're welcome to it!</li><li>let me know if you have questions; it's close</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>no travel plans for the next couple of months</li><li>should have a lot more Parrot time</li><li>probably time to consider another big project</li><li>probably GC related</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>updated the progress graph last night</li><li>up to date as of yesterday</li><li>Rakudo's passing over 30,000 tests, which is great</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>we have 27 mentors signed up for GSoC</li><li>a dozen student proposals have come in</li><li>the admission period ends Friday, so I expect at least a handful more</li><li>looks like a good year for proposals</li><li>trying to keep on track of Rakudo development</li><li>trying to be a go-between for Rakudo and Parrot</li><li>seems like it's helping Rakudo as Parrot addresses issues that come up</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Vasily and I fixed the Rakudo performance regression</li><li>we're going to experiment with immutable strings in a branch</li><li>expect some notable performance improvements there</li><li>also worked on the plan to fix line number reporting</li><li>need a test harness to help identify problems and avoid regressions</li><li>learned my lesson last time I worked on that....</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I cringe every time I hear "line numbers"</li><li>I like what Clang does about highlighting the arguments to functions</li><li>it'd be nice if we can do similar</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>that'd require more changes to Parrot, but it's doable</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I just want people to bear it in mind</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>there's no reason we can't have richer annotations</li><li>our first step is making sure the information we provide them (or they ask for) is accurate</li><li>is it time to have another big development meeting for Parrot?</li><li>the release is coming up</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>sounds good</li></ul> chromatic 2010-04-09T22:07:25+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 31 March 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40296?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 31 March 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>in SpecLand, made it clear that the brackets in pairs are not related to subscripts, but follow the corresponding fatarrow semantics</li><li>in particular, name extenders are just strings or list of strings, properly indicated by : or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:() in most cases (this includes all operator names).</li><li>we now forbid name extension using the<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:{}</code> keyless adverbial syntax</li><li>we don't need that because name extensions are really only supposed to use values, not closures</li><li>if we really, really, need to supply a closure as part of a name extension, we can put it in parens, as in<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:({})</code>.</li><li>we can use that notation for supplying a closure as a first argument to a method without requiring a space between the colon and the curly, as in<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.map:{...}</code> </li><li>people keep writing that and expecting it to work, so I thought it would be good to make it work</li><li>the colon is still require before the curlies, or it's a hash subscript</li><li>we now capitalize the <code>Junction</code> type again because I couldn't get people to stop capitalizing it</li><li>also, the native aspect of junctions is not their most salient difference from normal types</li><li>conjectured an <code>Each</code> type that autothreads lists like junctions, but is serial and lazy, and is used for its values in list context, not boolean context</li><li>in S05, did much cleanup of cursor semantics to reflect what STD and Rakudo actually do these days</li><li>retargeted the <code>&lt;&amp;foo&gt;</code> regex assertion form to explicitly call a routine, just like <code>&lt;.foo&gt;</code> always calls a method</li><li>a bare <code>&lt;foo&gt;</code> assertion now prefers to call a lexical function if visible, or calls as a method in current grammar if not</li><li>this is a compile-time distinction, not a fallback at run time</li><li>in code hacking, continued debugging of the backtracking transactions I added last week</li><li> <code>gimme5</code> now sets the correct xact on <code>||</code> alternations</li><li>deleted more of the transactions that are no longer needed when building match results that are no longer hypothetical</li><li>a <code>LazyMap</code> now always passes through the first result regardless of its associated commit transaction state</li><li>that's because the first cursor in a lazy list always represents the current match hypothesis, not a future hypothesis that needs pruning</li><li>STD now parses to the new specs regarding name extensions not including<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:{}</code> </li><li>now allow colon form of method arguments to omit the space if the next char is a left curly, which is what people seem to expect anyway</li><li>note that this makes the closure the first argument, not the only argument</li><li>STD now gives more useful error messages when user says things like 'if' as a function call (<code>if(...) {...}</code>), or a statement control like 'given' where one isn't expected (<code>$x = given {...}</code>)</li><li>STD now properly objects to unrecognized internal regex modifiers such as<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:has</code> </li><li>improved the message on adverbs with empty angles (<code>:foo&lt;&gt;</code>) to list some better options</li><li>the problem arises when people think that the angles produce a null string, when in fact they produce a <code>Nil</code> list</li><li>other malformed pairs are also better diagnosed, such as<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:!</code> not followed by an identifier, or pairs with duplicate arguments</li><li>added a new rule that traps all warnings and errors</li><li>STD now uses <code>suppose</code> in place of custom try blocks in diagnosing such things as two terms in a row, or unexpected infixes</li><li>also uses <code>suppose</code> to soften the warning about backtick-less embedded comments by not complaining if the supposed comment eats the whole line anyway</li><li>put in some code to de-dup identical warnings</li><li>STD now includes the signature's return type (after <code>--&gt;</code>) in the check for redundant '<code>of</code>' types</li><li>did various tiny speed tweaks, fossil removals</li><li>started playing with how to mark sink context and pure operations</li><li>split out <code>Actions.pm</code> from <code>viv</code> so that it can be used by other STD-based AST builders</li><li>this is in preparation for propagating attributes up and down the AST such as sink context and purity</li><li>eventually this will result in "Useless use of" messages where appropriate, not to mention the ability to do constant folding</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on the <code>compact_pool()</code> function</li><li>split it into a series of smaller functions</li><li>it could use more work, but it's an improvement</li><li>found one possible bug</li><li>worked on some documentation, especially for PMC attributes</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>reviewed some patches to add variable handling in regexes</li><li>they need some changes, but the overall concept is good</li><li>reviewed a few other messages</li><li>most of my time is going toward my family</li><li>hope to get more time to be more active in the next couple of days, but I can't promise that yet</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>talked to Jonathan about Rakudo Star priorities</li><li>he's very pleased with the memory fixes</li><li>the next thing on his list is getting good line numbers in reported errors</li><li>closing tickets</li><li>working to get rid of the last recursive Makefile</li><li>may wait until after the new release, when we remove a lot of deprecated things</li><li>practicing my NQP skills by working on Tcl again</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on the Rakudo memory problems</li><li>Vasily and I fixed the big memory use problem</li><li>still some performance tuning to do there</li><li>wrote up tasklists for two other important performance pieces</li><li>will work on line numbers after we get performance back</li></ul> chromatic 2010-04-05T04:42:21+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 24 March 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40284?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 24 March 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Jerry, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>clarified that nearly all normal operators autothread, including <code>===</code> and <code>eqv</code> </li><li>specced the <code>\|</code> parcel parameter syntax</li><li>documented that <code>R</code> metaoperator does not change associativity</li><li>clarified that <code>trusts</code> traits do not extend to child classes, and moritz++ specced it</li><li>in STD, we now suppress spurious errors from badinfix lookahead (and react more accurately to bogus terms)</li><li>now put the error location pointer before a bad infix, not after</li><li>we no longer assume missing block punctuation is always semi or comma, but keep them as a suggestion</li><li>missing punctuation message now points before any whitespace</li><li>awesomified error message about no unspace in regexes to explain how to quote space or <code>#</code> </li><li>pass single coeff to <code>radcalc</code> to make<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:16&lt;.BABEFACE&gt;</code> easier to allow</li><li>gives better message on missing <code>**</code> part of radix literals</li><li>worked around fact that<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>::</code> doesn't correctly suppress relexing of multi tokens</li><li>scrapped the workaround and did a complete refactor of commit point transactions; no longer uses exceptions to commit</li><li>instead, it walks the current commit chain to the proper commit target to disable choosers that should not choose any more options</li><li>commit chain aliasing and forking to make a cactus stack is now managed by cursors, mostly transparently</li><li>weighed in on the subject of stability domains (or lack thereof) in Rakudo *</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>still working on personal issues, but hope to have some resolution by Saturday</li><li>haven't had much time to work on Rakudo, but show up on #perl6 to give advice sometimes</li><li>read Larry's email to the list; it was very helpful</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>met some interesting people at SxSW doing open source education technology</li><li>reviewing the roadmap</li><li>the GC sounds like the most important thing to work on next</li><li>trying to catch up from having spotty network access lately</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>the other Rakudo developers have started weekly planning meetings</li><li>Jonathan has taken the lead</li><li>plenty of contributors are in the meeting and offered to take on new tasks</li><li>Rakudo Star may have a smaller scope, but it'll still come out in Q2</li><li>it's nice to see that the Rakudo community continues even as Patrick has an extended absence</li><li>still some Parrot issues affecting Rakudo</li><li>PaFo hopes to have its 501(c)3 application done by summer</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>bugfixes</li><li>minor optimizations</li><li>helped merge the PCC refactor branch</li><li>working on Rakudo memory issues (long analysis follows, partly Parrot GC and partly NQP behavior)</li></ul> chromatic 2010-03-31T21:20:11+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 17 March 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40283?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 17 March 2010. Larry, Allison, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>documented which ops don't autoclose with <code>*</code>, including assignment</li><li>conjectured a generalization of the closure-calling context (value-only lists) that subscripts enforce</li><li>this generalization might allow the autoclosing of some of the current exceptions such as <code>1..*</code> </li><li>added <code>Z</code> to go with <code>X</code> metaop; documented that <code>X</code> and <code>Z</code> desugar to higher-order methods, <code>crosswith</code> and <code>zipwith</code> </li><li>speculate about how to <code>zip</code>/<code>cross</code> dwimmily with non-identical ops; possibly creating a real use case for surreal precedence</li><li>however, for now sticking with conservative approach of requiring parens on differing list infixes</li><li>hacking on <code>viv</code> again</li><li>trying to get that bootstrapped, so I don't have to use <code>gimme5</code> </li><li>unbitrotted <code>viv --p6</code> so it exactly reproduces STD.pm again</li><li>various developments with <code>viv --p5</code> toward replacing <code>gimme5</code> </li><li>should make it easier to emit other parsers eventually</li><li>may emit Rakudo code someday</li><li>it's a race to see whether STD can do that before the current Rakudo parser resyncs with STD</li><li>anyone who wants to bootstrap on some other VM might want to use that</li><li>mostly tired of writing in the subset of Perl 6 that <code>gimme5</code> understands</li><li>mostly hacking on better error messages, as always</li><li>catches use of non-<code>$</code> hard reference</li><li>STD now read minds of people who forget that "<code>.meth</code> I" is a two-terms-in-a-row error</li><li>now produces good messages on attempts to use <code>y///</code> or <code>tr/a-z/A-Z/</code> syntax</li><li>now reports "previous line missing its semicolon" in the unexpected block checker</li><li>ambiguous use of<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.</code> probably indicates p5-think, not missing method parens</li><li>STD now has in a <code>q</code>-like sublanguage for <code>tr///</code> string parsing</li><li>implements the <code>MONKEY_TYPING</code> constraint on <code>augment</code> and <code>supersede</code> declarators</li><li>various random cleanups and bugfixes</li><li>added <code>Z</code> metaoperator</li><li>lots of works on regex flags to unify them into a single <code>%*RX</code> structure at parse time</li><li>makes it easier to do all of the lexical scoping in parallel</li><li>can now remap run-time's <code>$?FOO</code> variables to parser's <code>$*FOO</code> dynamic variables</li><li>otherwise, bugfixes, spec cleanup, and test cleanup</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on tickets</li><li>updating the Parrot roadmap to match our Rakudo Star support plan</li><li>working on the mini-language in NQP for a class assignment</li><li>found a new Pynie developer who saw my talk at Pycon</li><li>may be doing a Summer of Code project in it</li><li>answering lots of questions on IRC and helping out with ideas</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on lots of little bugs for Parrot</li><li>should have the method namespace bug fixed, with help from Andrew</li><li>exploring some optimization possibilities</li><li>should be able to merge the PCC refactor shortly</li><li>Allison, see TT #1511</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>we need to add a new opcode, something like <code>set_want</code> </li><li>call it to update the CallContext with expected return information</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>works a bit like Perl 5 there</li><li>we could use that information for MMD, that'd be interesting</li></ul> chromatic 2010-03-31T21:17:44+00:00 journal Ada Lovelace Day (Part 2) http://use.perl.org/~pjf/journal/40267?from=rss <p> <b>Ada Lovelace Day (Part 2)</b> <br> Today is Ada Lovelace continuation day; a day for continuing blog posts reflecting on the awesome contributions of women to science and technology. Here is my continuation from my <a href="http://pjf.id.au/blog/?position=602">previous post</a> of my personal heroines. </p><p> <b> <a href="http://www.chesnok.com/">Selena Deckelmann</a> </b> (<a href="http://twitter.com/selenamarie">@selenamarie</a>)<br> Wow. Selena. Where do I start? Selena does <i>everything</i>. She runs the <a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/">Open Source Bridge</a> conference, the <a href="http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx">Portland Postgres User Group</a> (PDXPUG) with <a href="http://twitter.com/gorthx">@gorthx</a>, the Code'n'Splode tech group, and gives talks at <a href="http://www.igniteportland.com/">Ignite Portland</a> and numerous conferences worldwide. She has an amazing garden, keeps chickens about as well as I do, and boundless energy. </p><p> And I mean <i>boundless</i> energy. Selena seems to be awake before dawn, will party into the night, and seems to always have half a dozen projects on the go at once. Selena coming off a trans-pacific flight is only slightly less bouncy than normal. As if that wasn't enough, she's also an amazing host, and was kind enough to let Jacinta and myself crash at her place last year when we were visiting Portland. </p><p> Selena is also an amazing public speaker, a great storyteller, knows more about databases than anyone else I know, and went to Nigeria to help combat election fraud. She is well-versed in awesome. </p><p> Selena is responsible for convincing me that I <i>really</i> need a pull-up bar at home. </p><p> <b> <a href="http://martian.org/karen/">Karen Pauley</a> </b> (<a href="http://twitter.com/keiosu">@keiosu</a>)<br> I first met Karen at a <a href="http://sydney.pm.org/">Sydney Perl Mongers</a> meeting a few years back. Karen is the Steering Committee Chair of the <a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/">Perl Foundation</a>, and is quite frankly one of the most friendliest and interesting people I've ever met. </p><p> Karen is responsible for making sure things get done, and a lot of her work is behind the scenes. In fact, I think it would be correct to say that Karen is awesome at meta-work; she has the rather unenviable task of encouraging technically minded people to do productive things. Her talk at the <a href="http://www.osdc.com.au/">Open Source Developers Conference</a> on managing volunteers was brilliant. </p><p> I'm personally indebted to Karen for listening to all my crazy ideas, sending me the most amazing Christmas Cards from Japan, providing fashion advice, making me laugh (a lot!), being an awesome person to hang out with at conferences, and for standing in the hot Australian sun with a digital SLR. If you've seen <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/keiosu/sets/72157622897942910/">photos of me draped over a nice looking sports car</a>, then that's probably Karen's work.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) </p><p> I aspire to become anywhere near as good a conversationalist as Karen. </p><p> <b> <a href="http://twitter.com/mjmojo">Mary Jane "MJ" Kelly</a> </b> (<a href="http://twitter.com/mjmojo">@mjmojo</a>)<br> I met Mary Jane completely by chance at OSCON last year. At the time, I thought that she was pretty darn awesome. What I didn't realise is that she's much more awesome than I first thought. </p><p> Mary Jane is full of ideas. <i>Cool</i> ideas. Ideas which involve industrial cutting lasers, 3D printers, quilts, robots, fractals, untraditional business cards, topography, steampunk, using tattoos for social hacking, and adventures! </p><p> Better still, MJ doesn't just have great ideas, she implements them too! I'm hugely looking forward to seeing her talk at this year's OSCON, which is all about hacker spaces and building awesome things. </p><p> Mary Jane is actively involved in computer security, particularly in the field of anti-fraud technologies in on-line gaming. MJ founded the <a href="http://girlsintech.net/category/seattle/">Girls In Tech Seattle chapter</a>, and organised the 2007 Northwest Security Symposium. </p><p> MJ has a wicked sense of humour that never fails to make me smile, shares my love of costumes and cool events, and is solely responsible for my knowledge of waffle-makers. </p><p> <b>Honourable mentions</b> <br> There are a lot more women in technology who have been hugely influential in my life, either by changing the way that I think, or from teaching me amazing new things. In particular, I'd love to give a special mention to <a href="http://twitter.com/lhawthorn">Leslie Hawthorn</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/sulagarcia">Sulamita Garcia</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/emmajanedotnet">Emma Jane Hogbin</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/allisonrandal">Allison Randal</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/audreyt">Audrey Tang</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/justjenine">Jenine Abarbanel</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/akkakk">Akkana Peck</a>, <a href="http://identi.ca/pfctdayelise">Brianna Laugher</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/br3nda">Brenda Wallace</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/puzzlement">Mary Gardiner</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/kattekrab">Donna Benjamin</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/raena">Raena Jackson-Armitage</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/piawaugh">Pia Waugh</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/stokely">Sarah Stokely</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/rickybuchanan">Ricky Buchanan</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/lindsey">Lindsey Kuper</a>, and <a href="http://twitter.com/lizhenry">Liz Henry</a>. </p><p> I don't have an Ada Lovelace Day list on twitter, but I do have my <a href="http://twitter.com/pjf/techwomen">techwomen</a> list, which includes all of the above and more. </p> pjf 2010-03-25T14:36:27+00:00 journal Fixing Mailman with Perl http://use.perl.org/~BooK/journal/40266?from=rss <p>Mailman is useful. Mailman works. Mailman is ubiquitous. I am subscribed to over 50 mailing-lists managed by Mailman.</p><p> But Mailmand is software, and therefore <a href="http://hates-software.com/">hateful</a>. </p><p>My particular Mailman hate is the <code>nodupes</code> parameter.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i> <b>Avoid duplicate copies of messages?</b> </i> </p><p> <i>When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list. Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from the mailing list; select No to receive copies.</i> </p><p> <i>If the list has member personalized messages enabled, and you elect to receive copies, every copy will have a X-Mailman-Copy: yes header added to it.</i> </p></div> </blockquote><p>I like duplicate email. Moreover, I like the <code>List-Id</code> header that makes emails sent through a list <i>special</i> (at least in the sense that they can be filtered <i>automatically</i> by more tools, and I can just delete the stuff that piles up in my Inbox). And by the way, how could Mailman be really sure that I got that other copy? Just because the headers say so? Bah.</p><p>Oh, and I also hate the fact that <i>Set globally</i> never worked for me with this option.</p><p>So, because I'm lazy, and I don't want to go clikety-click to first, get a reminder of the random password that was assigned to me years ago, and two, login and change that annoying option, and because <b>I don't want to do that fifty times, over and over again</b>...</p><p> I wrote and put on CPAN <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/WWW-Mailman/">WWW::Mailman</a>, designed to automate that kind of tedious task out of my life (and hopefully yours). Examples included, I know you're lazy too. </p><p><small>PS: I've been told there <i>is</i> a command-line interface to Mailman, but it is reserved to people managing Mailman on the server.</small></p> BooK 2010-03-25T01:07:02+00:00 journal Ada Lovelace Day (Part 1) http://use.perl.org/~pjf/journal/40264?from=rss <p> <b>Ada Lovelace Day (Part 1)</b> <br> Today is <a href="http://findingada.com/">Ada Lovelace day</a>; a day for reflection on the awesome contributions of women to science and technology. Today, I would like to pay tribute to some of my personal heroines, and as you'll see, there's quite a few of them. I've tried to list them in roughly chronological order. </p><p> <b> <a href="http://katherinephelps.com/">Dr Katherine Phelps</a> </b> <br> In my early teens I had a Commodore 64 with a 1200/75 baud modem, which I used to access local bulletin board systems (BBSes). This was the start of what I would discover was a lifelong joy of communicating with people from behind the safety of a monitor, or in the case of the C64, a television. </p><p> Katherine, and her husband Andrew, ran one such local BBS called the Rainbow Connection, and I met them both at a BBS meet-up. Katherine seems to have a knack for encouraging younger people to excel, and taught me the basics of HTML, and even had me editing web-pages for <a href="http://glasswings.com.au/">Glass Wings</a> and other websites. In fact, it's due to Katherine that I got my first exposure to the Internet and Internet programming. </p><p> Today, Katherine is still prominent in the fields of storytelling, interactive fiction, game-writing, and comedy. Katherine is almost wholly responsible for me getting into Japanese Animation, by showing me an nth generation, unsubtitled, videotape of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbour_Totoro">My Neighbour Totoro</a>, with herself and Andrew providing a very amusing translation as we watched.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) </p><p> <b> <a href="http://infotrope.net/">Kirrily 'Skud' Robert</a> </b> (<a href="http://twitter.com/Skud">@Skud</a>)<br> I met Skud though Katherine, also while I was still at high school. At the time I was living with my parents as a quiet, introverted geek. All of my friends, and most of the technical people I knew, were also quiet and introverted types. </p><p> Skud pretty much shattered all the stereotypes I had for what it was to be technical. She was outgoing, opinionated, pushed boundries, made things happen, was extremely good with people, had unconventional social views, and was <i>way</i> cooler than me. She still is. </p><p> Skud has had a massive influence on my life. She started her own business (Netizen) and wrote a set of course manuals on Perl. Some years later, that same writing would form the basis of <a href="http://perltraining.com.au/">Perl Training Australia</a>'s own <a href="http://perltraining.com.au/notes.html">course manuals</a>. Skud has been highly influential in the Geek Feminism movement (which has both a <a href="http://geekfeminism.org/">blog</a> and <a href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Geek_Feminism_Wiki">wiki</a>), and gave a critical keynote entitled <a href="http://infotrope.net/blog/2009/07/25/standing-out-in-the-crowd-my-oscon-keynote/">standing out in the crowd</a> at OSCON 2009. </p><p> Often I feel that whenever I discover a new experience, it's actually something Skud has been doing for at least a decade. I still fondly remember Skud giving me advice on etiquette at a rather incredible FOSS party a few years back. In fact, <a href="http://geeketiquette.com/">etiquette</a> is another thing Skud is rather good at.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) </p><p> Skud continues to be one of my most favourite people in the world, and I was delighted to have the chance to visit her in San Francisco last year after OSCON. My personal motto, never refuse an adventure, was directly lifted from one of Skud's new year's resolutions. </p><p> <b> <a href="http://use.perl.org/~jarich/journal/">Jacinta Richardson</a> </b> (<a href="http://twitter.com/jarichaust">@jarichaust</a>)<br> Once I got to university, I started an anime club. One year, working behind the desk, and with my hair in pigtails and balloons, a girl approached and asked about the club. At the end of the conversation she said "I might come back later", which when advertising an anime club usually translates to: "I think you're a complete freak, and I hope to never see you again in my life." </p><p> To cut a long story short, she came back, and she was studying Software Engineering.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) </p><p> Jacinta was a receipient of a 2008 White Camel Award for outstanding contributions to the Perl community. Along with running <a href="http://perltraining.com.au/">Perl Training Australia</a>, she's also one of the original organisers of the <a href="http://www.osdc.com.au/">Open Source Developers' Conference</a>, has helped with countless <a href="http://pm.org/">Perl Mongers</a> meetings, and is largely responsible for our <a href="http://perltraining.com.au/tips/">Perl Tips</a> newsletter. </p><p> Jacinta also does a lot of behind the scenes work which is not easily seen. She has contacts in practically every user group in Australia, so Jacinta is often involved when organisation of Australian-wide events are needed. At conferences she's often giving up her own time to coach nervous speakers (including me!). In fact, Jacinta even had a hand in one of my most favourite talks of all time, <a href="http://twitter.com/webchick">@webchick</a>'s <a href="http://webchick.net/files/women-in-floss.pdf">Women in FLOSS</a>. </p><p> <b> <a href="http://tradeskill.blogspot.com/">Emily Taylor</a> </b> (<a href="http://twitter.com/Domino_EQ2">@Domino_EQ2</a>)<br> I met Emily shortly after a phone-call from Jacinta saying that I was going to have a late addition to my Perl class. Emily arrived at lunchtime, and started as a bright, attentive student; she quickly caught up with the rest of the class, showed genuine talent, and was working on advanced exercises in no time. </p><p> However what got me really excited was <i>why</i> Emily was learning Perl. By afternoon of the first day, I was calling back to the office to say that our new student was <i>awesome</i>, and she was going to apply for the position of head tradeskill developer for Everquest II (EQ2). However I think it two at least two weeks until I discovered she was in my guild! </p><p> Now, Emily is indeed the grand tradeskill developer for EQ2. She has an <a href="http://tradeskill.blogspot.com/">awesome blog on MMO tradeskilling</a> and MMOs in general. More importantly for Ada Lovelace day, she's also an active contributor to the <a href="http://gamersinreallife.wordpress.com/">Gamers In Real Life (GIRL)</a> blog. </p><p> Emily presently lives in San Diego, where she distracts me yearly with photographs from Comic-con, and disagrees with me about what breakfast spreads are appropriate on toast. </p><p> <i>Stay tuned for tomorrow's continuation of this post.</i> </p> pjf 2010-03-24T11:59:48+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 10 March 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40261?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 10 March 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Jerry, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>scrapped @array[%100_000] modular subscript notation in favor of a more general mapping closure</li><li>put back<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:s</code> file test, removed<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:z</code>,<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:T</code>,<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:B</code>,<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:M</code>,<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:A</code>,<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:C</code> </li><li>clarified that these are defined on IO, not on strings</li><li>deprecated the <code>{*}</code> and <code>#=</code> reduction stub notations in grammars</li><li>attributive parameters now default to <code>is copy</code> binding; but easy for an attribute to override this with <code>is ref</code> </li><li>tried to move operator definitions to CORE; found one approach that doesn't work and abandoned it</li><li>STD now allows <code>_</code> in numeric variable names like <code>$10_000</code>.</li><li>factored out curlycheck so we can use it on any trailing curly</li><li> <code>postcircumfix:&lt;{ }&gt;</code> now uses curlycheck for consistency</li><li>STD now speculates missing semicolon when two terms in a row are separated by at least one newline</li><li>removed mention of <code>*.notdef</code> in favor of<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:!defined</code> </li><li>still need to remove it from the spec though</li><li>ambiguously rebound outer lexicals now detected even if ambiguity propagates from an inner scope </li><li>reports more pertinent information in that case so the difficulty can be understood by the user</li><li>various random debugger refactorings</li><li>properly scope dynamic package names for block-oriented packages to include name declaration</li><li>package_def of<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>;</code> packages now eats statementlist itself to stay inside proper scope</li><li>much work on package qualified names</li><li>correctly parse <code>&lt;$x&gt;</code> part of <code>FOO::&lt;$x&gt;</code> as part of variable name</li><li>correctly follow symbolically indirected <code>OUTER::</code> links</li><li> <code>find_top_pkg</code> no longer cares if name ends in<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>::</code> </li><li>STD now figures out whether initial components lead to package or lexical scope</li><li>no longer scans outer scopes on qualified names</li><li>now handles <code>FOO::&lt;$x&gt;</code> form in <code>check_variable</code> </li><li>no longer checks for <code>@/%</code> mistakes on qualified names</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>haven't had much hacking time lately due to personal demands</li><li>should be able to hack again later today and the rest of the week</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on the PCC refactor</li><li>that went well; the hackathon was good</li><li>it didn't pull in a lot of people, but me dedicating the weekend to it was helpful</li><li>also pulled in a few other people willing to try things out</li><li>we made good progress</li><li>our initial task is over</li><li>we're in the nebulous stage of debugging</li><li>need to review a change in optional return values</li><li>also worked on Ubuntu and Debian packaging</li><li>Parrot 2.0 is in both</li><li>it'll be in April's Lucid Lynx Ubuntu</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Google Summer of Code is starting</li><li>TPF and PaFo are teaming up this year</li><li>we're working on the organization application</li><li>Jonathan Leto is leading things and I'm backing him up</li><li>we're looking for mentors and ideas; see the <a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc">TPF GSoC wiki page</a> </li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>started going through Rakudo's RT queue</li><li>did more Parrot building and cleanup work</li><li>no longer invoking Perl to invoke the C compiler for each build file</li><li>shaved some time off the build</li><li>eliminated one recursive make, leaving two</li><li>then I can remove more things from config</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>worked on a bunch of branches</li><li>fixed a couple of bugs</li><li>hope to get more bug fixing time in</li></ul> chromatic 2010-03-23T01:37:49+00:00 journal Gone http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/40243?from=rss <p>Like many others, I'm no longer posting here very much. You'll find my new technical journal at <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/">blogs.perl.org</a>. It's much shinier.</p><p> <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/use.perl.org/">As you can see, use.perl visits have been dropping for a while</a> (blogs.perl.org is too new to show up on that search) and the <a href="http://use.perl.org/">front page of use.perl has been sadly neglected</a>. As for blogs.perl.org, after an initial rough start, <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/adam_kennedy/2009/12/migrating-from-useperlorg-to-blogsperlorg.html">plenty</a> <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/thefinalcut/2009/12/first-post-on-the-shiny-new-onion.html">of</a> <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/limbicregion/2009/11/goodbye-useperlorg-hello-blogsperlorg.html">people</a> are switching over and are very happy with the shiny.</p><p>I have fond memories of use.perl.org, but it's just too old and out-of-date. Come on over to our new platform and look around. Plus, <a href="http://github.com/davorg/blogs.perl.org/issues">tell us what you want changed about it</a>. (To be fair, while I was involved in the project to get it launched (mostly kibitzing and asking why things were stalled -- I'm such a marketroid<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:), the hands-on work was Dave Cross, Aaron Crane and the wonderful folks at <a href="http://www.sixapart.com/">SixApart</a>.)</p> Ovid 2010-03-14T08:02:43+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 03 March 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40242?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 03 March 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, Jerry, Will, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>noted how lastcall allows nextsame control of nested dispatchers</li><li>reserved the final paren-based shape declaration syntax without committing to it meaning anything</li><li>clarified that <code>Nil</code> itself is defined but likes to produce undefined values when indexed</li><li>added some clarifications of how the series operator deals with type information</li><li>clarified that <code>Pair.ACCEPTS</code> uses "so" and "not" semantics so<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:s returns <code>True</code> or <code>False</code> </li><li>removed the <code>1/2</code> and <code>+2-3i</code> literal forms, now rely on angle forms <code>&lt;1/2&gt;</code> and <code>&lt;+2-3i&gt;</code> for literals, and the bare forms now rely on constant folding rather than a fragile special syntax</li><li>in STD, made undeclared variables more fatal</li><li>STD now tries to be helpful if the user makes the typical P5-ish variant-sigil mistake on arrays and hashes</li><li>also improved error message on the <code>-</code>{}&gt; kind of mistake that P5 programmers will make</li><li> <code>my $a, $b</code> now gives better message</li><li>STD now reserves the <code>()</code> shape syntax per current spec</li><li>fixed regression on indirect method knowing that method name is not bound early</li><li>moved unexpected-<code>!!</code> panic from infixstoppers to <code>infix:&lt;!!&gt;</code> for better extensibility</li><li>so a user's infix definition isn't ignored if it starts with <code>!!</code> </li><li>you can define user operators starting with that, and it only complains for the right reasons now</li><li>STD now gives an accurate message when a prefix is missing its term</li><li>removed deprecated rational and complex literal forms from STD</li><li>much preliminary work for moving operator defs to CORE.setting, not yet checked in</li><li>only blocker is not being in Copenhagen</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Jonathan, Carl, Moritz, and Martin will be there</li><li>I proposed a panel discussion instead of my talk on Tuesday afternoon at 3 pm</li><li>I'll be online then</li><li>can't make it due to sudden personal reasons</li><li>will be online quite a bit the next few days though</li><li>can participate in the hackathon remotely</li><li>worked mostly on helping other people get their tasks done</li><li>updated the parser to handle more operator conditions</li><li>working toward enabling user-defined operators</li><li>quite a few new people submitted patches</li><li>several were non-trivial</li><li>one patch put grammars, regexes, and tokens back in Rakudo</li><li>that's not trivial and it worked pretty well</li><li>I'm reviewing patches and making comments</li><li>lots of good progress</li><li>expect lots more during the hackathon</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>going to work on code stuff this weekend instead of traveling</li><li>had a very productive trip</li><li>glad to be home to get work done</li><li>working on the PCC branch this week</li><li>should be, fingers crossed, small and easy to get done</li><li>want to avoid creature feeping</li><li>get the re-ordering through and move on</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>having trouble building Rakudo on Windows</li><li>have time to debug with people online</li><li>this is preventing me from talking to Patrick about and working on S19</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>we can work on that tomorrow</li></ul><p> <strong>Will:</strong> </p><ul> <li>saw that problem on p6c as well</li><li>fixed a Parrot bug for Patrick related to STRING indices</li><li>we have some speed fixes on top of that</li><li>still working on the build cleanup</li><li>hope to merge to trunk in the next two or three days</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>haven't had and won't have much time</li><li>fixed a few bugs</li><li>working on helping other people get stuff done</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>is there a hackathon or meeting time available after OSCON?</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>recommend the weekend after</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>there'd have to be a hackathon for me to get TPF sponsorship</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>the pace of spec changes has picked up</li><li>any ideas what's driving that?</li><li>is it different from before?</li><li>was the end-of-year lull the same as before?</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>everyone did take a break over Christmas</li><li>most of the changes are still simplifications</li><li>or responses to implementation issues</li><li>dealing with inconsistencies</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>a lot of implementation issues have come up over the past three weeks</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>ng has flushed out a lot of design issues</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>that's great!</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>that's great for Larry, but I have a deadline!</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>remember, it's a stake in the ground</li><li>"This is a release of Perl 6 you can use NOW!"</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>we're driving the spec with regard to lists and arrays</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>they essentially have the same structure</li><li>they need separate typology</li><li>you need to know whether to clone an iterator</li><li>that's the only reason you have to know</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>did you see my comment about binding being the distinguishing feature?</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I think about that in inside out terms</li><li>not sure I can put that in words yet</li><li>had a conversation with Solomon about the FP view of iterators and arrays</li><li>that's some of my thinking</li><li>do we promise to hold a pointer fixed, or go on to the next thing?</li><li>whether that thing is persistent is mostly the bailiwick of the GC, from the standpoint of the language</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I wasn't sure how that applied to my specific context</li><li>maybe I should work up a description of words or implementation</li><li>some lists I want to keep around reified elements</li><li>some lists I don't</li><li>the distinction is whether it's bound to any variable</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>may depend on what it's bound to</li><li>we might make the keeparound promise only for binding to <code>@</code> </li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I came up with binding to <code>$</code> examples</li><li>we can get laziness but eat up a ton of memory</li><li>if we throw things away when iterating, we get more things wrong</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>it's a matter of tracking</li><li>are we bound to something that tells the GC to keep the rest of the list around?</li><li>that's the FP view</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>that's not just a GC view</li><li>it's how people refer to them</li><li>my GC is taken care of by my virtual machine anyway</li><li>it's about reachability from the HLL</li><li>or did you see it disappear</li></ul><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>that's whether you have a reference to it</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>how do you know whether to keep a reference to it?</li><li>I've produced this element</li><li>can I send it back to the caller</li><li>or do I need to keep it around so something else can get to it</li><li>if the iterator itself is bound, you keep the reference</li><li>if it's not bound, you can return it but not keep the reference around</li><li>I'll write up my thoughts</li></ul><p> <strong>Jerry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>will these changes settle down after Rakudo *?</li><li>are they a precursor to that release?</li><li>will they continue afterward?</li><li>will Rakudo * go stale?</li><li>that's a tough one to answer</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I can't guarantee stability at this point</li><li>we want a useful release</li><li>we'd like not to have any deprecations after that point</li><li>given how implementations and applications <em>drive</em> implementations</li><li>Rakudo * exists to encourage people to develop applications</li><li>we've never made that stability an explicit goal for Rakudo *</li><li>we'll probably institute deprecation cycles when it comes out</li><li>we don't want to change the world out from under people</li><li>it doesn't represent a spec freeze</li><li>thinking of a separate distribution release from the compiler release</li><li>a three month stability cycle of releases for Rakudo *</li><li>a different point of view</li><li>any distribution release doesn't have to be tied to the newest compiler release</li><li>I see Rakudo * as a series of releases, not a single release</li></ul> chromatic 2010-03-13T23:19:22+00:00 journal Headsup on command line for shortcuts in Windows XP http://use.perl.org/~bart/journal/40219?from=rss <p>For Strawberry Perl, and Padre, I use a custom entry in the Start Menu, which technically is a shortcut (*.LNK file). For example, for Padre the command line in the shortcut file was:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/c PATH=c:\strawberry\perl\bin;c:\strawberry\c\bin;%PATH% &amp;&amp; padre</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Likewise, the command line for my Strawberry shell was:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/k PATH=c:\strawberry\perl\bin;c:\strawberry\c\bin;%PATH%</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Overnight, these both stopped working.</p><p>After a bit of puzzling, I figured out that a new program had been installed by Windows Update, and this had added a new directory to PATH. As a result, after the environment variable was substituted with its real value, the length of the expanded command line was now longer than 256 bytes, and now PATH got truncated.</p><p>Remember, folks:</p><blockquote><div><p> <b>The length of the command line for a shortcut, after expansion, should never be longer than 256 bytes.</b></p></div> </blockquote><p>If you put the code for modification of PATH in a *.BAT file, no such restriction applies.</p><p>So now, my shortcut to start the command shell is:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/k c:\strawberry\strawberry_path.bat</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>where c:\strawberry\strawberry_path.bat contains the lines</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>@echo off<br>PATH=C:\strawberry\c\bin;C:\strawberry\perl\bin;%PATH%</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>which makes it easier for me to add more Perl based tools that depend on these entries in PATH: I now have a central location for the definition, if I ever need to add or modify a directory.</p> bart 2010-03-02T14:26:35+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 24 February 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40217?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 24 February 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>my work last week was almost entirely responsive to various discussions on irc and p6l, even when it doesn't seem like it</li><li>clarified that <code>LEAVE</code>-style phasers do not trip till after an exception is handled (and not resumed)</li><li>the implementation of take is specifically <em>before</em> unwinding even if implemented with a control exception</li><li>simplified series operator by moving generator function to the left side (any function on right side will now be a limiting conditional)</li><li>a <code>*</code> is no longer required to intuit the series on the left; the absence of generator before the<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>...</code> operator is sufficient</li><li>first argument on the right of<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>...</code> is now always a limiter argument</li><li>for convenience and consistency, added a new<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>...^</code> form to exclude a literal limiter from the generated series</li><li>unlike ranges, however, there is no leading exclusion <code>^...</code> or <code>^...^</code> </li><li>series is a list associative list infix, and each<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>...</code> pays attention only the portion of the list immediately to its left (plus the limit from the right)</li><li>an "impossible" limit can terminate a monotonic intuited series even if the limit can never match exactly</li><li>variables now default to a type of <code>Any</code>, and must explicitly declare <code>Mu</code> or <code>Junction</code> type to hold junctions</li><li>this is to reduce pressure to duplicate many functions like <code>==</code> with <code>Mu</code> arguments; most of our failure values should be derived from Any in any case</li><li>a <code>Mu</code> result is more indicative of a major malfunction now, and is caught at first assignment to an <code>Any</code> variable</li><li> <code>Instant</code>/<code>Duration</code> types are biased away from <code>Num</code> and towards <code>Rat</code>/<code>FatRat</code> semantics</li><li> <code>Instant</code> is now completely opaque; we no longer pretend to be the same as TAI, numerically speaking</li><li> <code>Instant</code>s are now considered a more basic type than epochs, which are just particular named instants</li><li>all culturally aware time can be based on calculations involving instants and durations</li><li>list associative operators now treat non-matching op names as non-associative rather than right-associative, forcing parens</li><li> <code>Whatever</code> semantics now autocurry any prefix, postfix, or infix operator that doesn't explicitly declare that it handles whateverness itself</li><li> <code>WhateverCode</code> objects now take a signature to keep clear how many args are not yet curried</li><li>so <code>*+*</code> is now more like <code>WhateverCode:($x,$y)</code> </li><li>autocurrying is still transitive so multiple ops can curry themselves around a <code>*</code> </li><li>added semilists as <code>Slicel</code> type to go with <code>Parcel</code> </li><li>this allows us to bind <code>@array[1,2,3]</code> differently from <code>@array[1,2,3;4,5,6]</code>, for instance</li><li>the <code>Matcher</code> type now excludes <code>Bool</code> arguments to prevent accidental binding to outer <code>$_</code> when closure is needed</li><li> <code>when</code> and <code>~~</code> will now warn of always/never matching on direct use of <code>True</code> or <code>False</code> names as matcher</li><li>STD generalizes <code>\w</code> lookahead to all twigils now</li><li>STD now treats non-matching list associatives as non-associative</li><li>things like <code>1 min 2 max 3</code> are now illegal, and require parenthesization for clarity</li><li>STD now treat invocant colon as just a comma variant so it does not fall afoul of the list associativity change</li><li>CORE now recognizes the <code>TrigBase</code> enumeration</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>first release of the new branch of Rakudo last week</li><li>passing ~25,000 tests at the release</li><li>thanks to optimizations from chromatic, Jonathan, and Vasily, Rakudo has a lot of speed improvements</li><li>in particular, it can run those tests in under 10 minutes, non-parallel, depending on your hardware</li><li>older releases took 25 minutes and more</li><li>the regex tests will slow things down</li><li>ultimately, we're seeing a big speed improvement over the past releases</li><li>cleaned up lists and slices, now they work pretty well</li><li>worked with Solomon Foster and others to speed up trig operations</li><li>fixed a bug related to lexicals declared in classes</li><li>fixed the long-standing and often recurring problem with curlies ending a line/statement causing the next statement to be a statement modifier</li><li>easy to fix in the new grammar</li><li>that was nice</li><li>made an initial implementation of the <code>sort</code> method</li><li>it's very short, because Parrot provides one</li><li>there are a few bugs in Rakudo there still, but I'll get them</li><li>planning for the Copenhagen hackathon on March 5 - 9</li><li>Jonathan and I have been updating the Rakudo roadmap</li><li>will check that in in the next couple of hours</li><li>so far, every time we review it, we surprise ourselves at how much we've accomplished</li><li>we're meeting all of the top priority goals without making any heroic efforts</li><li>we'll put those goals in as well as timelines</li><li>most of the major tasks from previous roadmaps have happened</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on Python this week</li><li>attended Python VM summit, Python language summit, and PyCon</li><li>Parrot's on good track to support what Python needs</li><li>useful to make community connections</li><li>when I reviewed Pynie, I was surprised to see how close it is to supporting the whole Python syntax</li><li>some of those features are big, like objects</li><li>but we should support them soon</li><li>Debian packages delayed by the absence of a sponsor</li><li>they should go into Debian soon though</li><li>I put in a request for feature-freeze exception for Ubuntu 10.4</li><li>Parrot 2.0 should go in</li><li>haven't made any commits to the PCC branch</li><li>that'll be a top priority for next week</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>fixed a Parrot GC bug for last week's Rakudo release</li><li>made some optimizations in Rakudo and Parrot</li><li>helped Jonathan find a few more</li><li>fixed a long-standing math MMD bug</li><li>still working on HLL subclassing; more tricky than you think</li><li>may be some conflicting design goals about vtable overriding and MMD</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>Patrick, do we need an explicit deprecation for old PGE and NQP?</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>I think Will already added one for NQP</li><li>we can add one for PGE if we need</li><li>they don't necessarily have to disappear at the next release</li><li>but no one's planning to maintain them</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>no reason not to put in the notice now</li><li>we don't have to remove them at the earliest possible date</li></ul> chromatic 2010-03-02T05:12:09+00:00 journal Perl 6 Design Minutes for 17 February 2010 http://use.perl.org/~chromatic/journal/40209?from=rss <p>The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 17 February 2010. Larry, Allison, Patrick, and chromatic attended.</p><p> <strong>Larry:</strong> </p><ul> <li>much work clarifying relationship of parcels to everything else (<code>&lt;a b&gt;</code>, assignment, arguments, captures, parameters, signatures, <code>gather</code>/<code>take</code>, and loop returns)</li><li>we now list all scope declarators in one spot</li><li>conjectured some ideas on how to handle the allomorphism of literals more dwimmily</li><li>had already specced some of this behavior for literals found inside <code>qw</code> angles.</li><li>literals that exceed a <code>Rat64</code>'s denominator automatically keep the string form around for coercion to other types</li><li>clarified that anon declarator allows a name but simply doesn't install it in the symbol table</li><li>respecced the trig functions to use a pragma to imported fast curried functions</li><li>still uses enum second argument for the general case (rakudo is still stuck on slow strings there)</li><li>on iterators, renamed<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.getobj</code> to<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>.getarg</code> since arguments are the typical positional/slicey usage</li><li>signatures are never bound against parcels anymore, only against captures</li><li>we now use "argument" as a technical term meaning either a real parcel or an object that can be used independent of context as an argument</li><li>anything that would stay discrete when bound to a positional, basically</li><li> <code>return</code>, <code>take</code>, and loop return objects are also arguments in that sense</li><li>they all return either a parcel or anything that can stand on its own as an argument</li><li>STD now adds a shortname alias on adverbialized names, ignores collisions on the shortname for now, which is okay for multis</li><li>STD now complains about longname (adverbialized) collisions</li><li>STD no longer carps about duplicate anonymous routine declarations</li><li>made the undeclared type message the same for parameters as for other declarations</li><li>clarify the error message about anonymous variables</li><li>no longer report a <code>$)</code> variable error where <code>)</code> is the <code>$*GOAL</code> </li><li>add <code>WHAT</code> etc. to list of functions that require an argument</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on two HLL implementations</li><li>one is Pynie, the other is Camle</li><li>nothing to do with Caml or ML</li><li>I've noticed huge improvements in NQP-rx from the previous NQP</li><li>can't say which feature improvements make the most difference, but I'll migrate Pynie pretty soon to take advantage of the new version</li><li>continuing to shepherd Debian and Ubuntu packages</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>essentially all I did was unify things</li><li>previously it had been two or three tools</li><li>it's just one</li></ul><p> <strong>Allison:</strong> </p><ul> <li>even the syntax seems more regular</li></ul><p> <strong>Patrick:</strong> </p><ul> <li>there are more pieces available in NQP-rx</li><li>Rakudo's -ng is now master</li><li>the old master is now -alpha</li><li>we took a big hit on spectests, but they seem to be coming back quickly</li><li>5000 tests pass on trunk now</li><li>we have 16k or 17k we haven't re-enabled; they make the spectest slower</li><li>Jonathan thinks we may pass 25,000 tests now</li><li>that's great, considering where we were a week ago</li><li>I redid Rakudo's container, value, and assignment module</li><li>previously variables held values directly</li><li>now they contain reference PMCs</li><li>that cleaned up many things</li><li>we use more PMCs, but now we don't clone and copy as much</li><li>we move references around more</li><li>seems closer to how Perl 6 handles things</li><li>was much easier than I expected</li><li>updated the NQP-rx regex engine and built in constant types</li><li>handles Unicode character names</li><li>reclaims plenty of tests</li><li>answered lots of questions for people adding things into Rakudo</li><li>prioritizing other people writing code over writing code</li><li>increases our developer pool; seems to be working well</li><li>new release of Rakudo planned for tomorrow</li><li>don't know how many tests we'll pass, but it should go well</li><li>plan to put in a few things like <code>sort</code> and grammars over the next week</li><li>then I'll review the RT queue to find bugs and (hopefully) closeable bugs</li></ul><p> <strong>c:</strong> </p><ul> <li>working on GC tuning</li><li>also working on String PMC tuning</li><li>working on built-in types and their behavior as classes and parent classes</li><li>the multidispatch bugs in particular I hope to solve</li></ul> chromatic 2010-02-25T00:27:32+00:00 journal