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Sunday April 06, 2008
03:34 AM

what twitter-land is saying about Perl

[ #36075 ]

I use Twitter. I like being able to tell my 1.5 friends where I'm at and having him maybe drop in on me. (God, I suck.) I found and decided to search for mention of Perl, possibly to follow Perl users in the area, if I could find them. Here's a sample of what I got:

        ceri : remembering why I hate Perl

        PoBK : *Scream* This is why I HATE perl. There are no less, that 17 modules on CPAN to query domain Whois data! Seventeen!!!1oneeleven

ironsoap : We now come to the part of the show where I sing a little song about how much I hate Perl and its evil sibling Unicode.

calico : @mrballistic - re: DB-backed sites -yep, I worked with a company doing it with PERL backends and an Access DB back then - painful

neilfws : think the perl love affair might be over

jonsagara : I can't believe there are Web applications still written in Perl.

baseonmars : i want to stab perl in the head and make it's eyes bleed.

ba78 : "No one working on ES4 wants it to be like Perl 6." :)

chastell : ‘Perl style guide’. ahahaha *snort*.

neilfws : enough perl horror for today; need to go home and calm down

acdha : replacing hackish Perl with half as much better Python feels *so* good

etherjammer : @fadeaccompli, deep sympathy. - just occurred to me - are you going to have to learn Perl?

eosadler : @amndw2 Why perl? Consider trying ruby. "Learn to Program" by Chris Pine is a great intro book that I've been teaching from.

SlexAxton : Both of these return true in Perl: "Perl" eq "Perl" and "Perl" == "Dumb"

fortunetweet : There are worse things than Perl....ASP comes to mind

breathoffire : The whole "theres more than one way to do it" concept of perl can be tedious.

noahk17 : @bluesharpie5 So far everyone has said job #2. Perl is dead anyways. I'll be sure to tweet as soon as I hear something!!

mpstaton : @dweekly perl? isn't that so 2004?

offwhitemke : Primary experience example of less code is not better, Perl. ... to be fair, there were some positives mixed in, but the overwhelming negativity caught me be surprise. I'm trying not to be in denial about my language choices. This can't go without comment. Well, it could. My reply:

Perl haters: shut the hell up until you learn awk and sed, understand what they do that other languages don't, and why Perl took from them.

I know; boring old topic. Image changes like adding strong typing (, publishing Best Practices, CPANTS, aren't going to change perceptions. How do we tell a whole generation of people first learning to program on purely procedural/OO languages what the *point* of Perl's existence is?


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  • I think one part of the problem with Perl's perception as an evil, hideous language that should be forbidden by some Geneva Convention comes from the association that Perl has with nasty problems. Perl is so dang useful that it's used to solve hard problems. Solving an equivalent problem in Python probably occurs after you have the luxury of actually sitting down and thinking about what you're doing.
    • I think you are close, but I disagree with some of the details. For all the crap Python gets from Perl programmers (and I am one of those who dislike it), it’s not significantly worse or better than Perl at any particular task. The language has a few horrible flaws, but then Perl also has its own share of those. (I find myself chafing less at Perl’s flaws so that is the language I chose.) So I don’t think it’s that people reach for Perl in situations where they wouldn’t reach f

      • Perl cares more about feeling familiar to someone steeped in Unix...

        That's definitely true, and it's the source of some of the rougher edges of Perl. It's also the source of some of the brilliance of Perl.