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Tuesday August 02, 2005
11:38 AM

Class::DBI is ok.

[ #26036 ]

All other issues aside, CDBI is safe. Tony's quite happily looking forward to working on 1.0 and it will go to CPAN. Continue using it.

Tony hasn't gone completely bonkers. There's legal messiness he can't really talk about, but there is an underlying logic.

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  • Sorry. I know you and I disagree about this, but it has to be reiterated. Many people are no longer going to trust Tony's judgment. It doesn't matter if CDBI is OK if we're afraid the author's going to threaten us with legal action, take down the mailing lists, or that others are going to fork CDBI to avoid these problems.

    Tony should either fall on his sword and turn this module over or figure out some way of winning back the trust of his users (and I can't imagine any way that he could short of keepin

    • Why should I be afraid that anyone would threaten me with legal action for using software according to the license? If I were libelling someone or publishing copyrighted information without permission, that's one thing -- but using the software? I don't understand the concern.

      • The problem is that Tony doesn't seem to be acting rationally, so people don't know what to expect. It's encouraging to hear that "there is an underlying logic", but I still cannot fathom it.
        • I don't know how rationally he's acting, but I don't fear being threatened with legal action when I've done nothing wrong.

          --
          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
          • I don't know how rationally he's acting, but I don't fear being threatened with legal action when I've done nothing wrong.

            You must be new to this country. :-)

      • Yes, but no one libelled Tony, nor illegally reprinted copyrighted information. And yet he still threatened.
    • I'm confused over what all the big stink is about, but maybe it's my age that makes me just not give a shit about yet another conflict of personalities in a community where there is little left but that. I never thought ESR was sane but that never kept me from using fetchmail way back when.
    • Sorry, Ovid, but that's FUD.

      Sure, Schwern is just spouting feel-good anti-FUD, but the answer to that isn't to respond with FUD. The answer is to take the most appropriate course of action to your situation.

      Perhaps you'll be exceedingly risk-averse and stop using CDBI. That's fine, because you're choosing to be risk-averse. Perhaps the sanest course of action for your particular circumstances is to do nothing and wait until this mess sorts itself out. In any case, I fail to see the logic behind your

  • I'm quite relieved to see wiki.class-dbi.com back on-line and that it sounds like it will be handed over to someone else properly. On the front page, Tony (presumably) writes:
    This site was unavailable for a few days in an attempt to prevent it being replicated it elsewhere. Sorry about that. Hopefully we can get on now with a proper handover.