You might have seen this or heard something about the CDBI list closing. Sebastian's post is coloring the truth a bit. He's got comments turned off so I can't refute it there so I'll have to do it here.
The thread he points to is not the full story. Its only part of the conversation, for some reason gmane split the thread into pieces. The full thread can be seen here. Sebastian only links to the part of the thread where his comments that got him temporarily booted don't show up. Maybe its a mistake, I dunno, but it sure makes him look innocent.
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:49:34AM +0200, Sebastian Riedel wrote:
> Tony just listens to what Tony wants to hear...
This guy's a dick. Is he always like this?
Apparently this isn't the first time something like this has happened. Since the comments were directed at Tony and I we made sure there was a third, impartial complaint from someone whose opinion we trust. So Tony unsubscribed him for a week to cool down. Even in a free and open discussion, somebody's got to stop folks from slinging poo.
Now in Tony's mailing list software he can't really ban anyone, he can only unsubscribe them. Sebastian resubscribed. Tony unsubscribed him. Sebastian asked what's going on, Tony told him he'd been temp banned. Sebastian protested his innocence. I do not believe he was unaware that he offended people as I had sent him a personal email about his "god" comment towards me (no reply). Sebastian resubscribed again. Tony unsubscribed him, told him to stop resubscribing without permission. Sebastian ignored his and subscribed yet again. At this point, having no technical way to stop this subscribe/unsubscribe loop and not wanting to waste any more time on it, Tony threatened legal action. Tony also turned on admin confirmation of subscriptions.
At this point Sebastian created a journal on use.perl to post up his side of the story. Comments off. Shortly after Tony received a pile of subscribe requests from various people presumably because of Sebastian's post. This is the straw that broke the camel's back and he shut the list and the wiki down not wanting to bother with the hassle of maintaining them anymore.
Was it right to temp ban Sebastian? Yes. Could Tony have communicated more clearly? Yeah. Is it kosher to threaten legal action over a mailing list dispute? I dunno. I wouldn't have, but I don't have to deal with maintaining a large mailing list. Was Sebastian being a dick? Most certainly. And then he reacted childishly by continuously resubscribing then crafted things to look like he's the victim.
Tony's been feeling used and abused for a while now, taking a lot of flak over his maintainence of Class::DBI, one of the most popular modules on CPAN. He doesn't get paid for it and has decided its no longer worth the hassle. CDBI maintanence will continue, and someone else is going to start up a new list, but Tony isn't going to maintain the community anymore.
I feel for him, not just because he's my friend but because I take this sort of shit, too. Every once in a while someone will tell me about my "obligation" to something or other because so many people use Test::More or MakeMaker to which my reply is ultimately, with various amounts of sugar coating, "fuck you, I don't get paid for this".