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I'm a Perl coder living in Bethlehem, PA and working Philadelphia. I'm a philosopher and theologan by training, but I was shocked to learn upon my graduation that these skills don't have many associated careers. Now I write code.

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Friday August 08, 2008
09:15 AM

you can tell me why i suck

[ #37131 ]

Sometimes, when I start hanging out in a new IRC channel, or spend some time with programmers I've only talked to on mailing lists, I hear people make new cutting remarks about other widely respected programmers. Often, the new group will have some well-established group opinion about someone I respect, and that opinion will not be entirely flattering. This is always a strange experience. I'm usually a bit put off by nasty talk about anybody, especially people whose work I respect. Then again, the criticism is often reasoned and makes me see people in a new light that helps me more critically assess their work and their claims.

So, apart from the sort of general "don't be a jerk" advice that more people should take more often (see Ovid's recent blog post), what I take away from this experience is the lurking suspicion that somewhere there is a clique of people who think that I suck. Of course, they might be right! I just wish they'd tell me. After all, if all correct and potentially constructive criticism is kept secret, people aren't likely to improve.

So, it's okay. If I suck, you can tell me. Preferably, though, not by pointing me at the blog post you've just written on the subject.

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  • WHAT DO YOU WANT?
    Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
    Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!


    • > Sometimes, when I start hanging out in a new IRC channel, or spend some time
      > with programmers I've only talked to on mailing lists, I hear people make new
      > cutting remarks about other widely respected programmers.

      It's not "Sometimes", consider it to be ALWAYS the case.

      > I'm usually a bit put off by nasty talk about anybody, especially people whose
      > work I respect.

      Same here. But it's probably because i'm too gentle. Here, we say: "Trop Bon, Trop Con!", which means (more or less) "T
  • you're just different. ;)

    I do find you pretty abrasive on IRC, though. You're obviously very talented and smart, but you lack patience to deal with those of us who are less talented/smart. And when you lose your patience, you do come off as a jerk.

    Since you wish for openness, I'm taking that as an approval to publish a snippet of our conversation, where we had a disagreement about normalization:

    15:46 <Purdy> but no one uses WHERE
    15:46 <Purdy> it's not supported in the current SQLite
    15:46

  • I know a lot of people think I'm an asshole, or a jerk, or an incompetent boob. I had this conversation at work last week. Someone got pissed at me and claimed that others were too. My response was "if those people aren't willing to talk to me about whatever issue they have, I don't give a shit about it because I have no idea what that issue *is*". You're a generally great guy and, if there is some cult of "rjbs sucks" people, let me know and I shall silence them. I, on the other hand, have no doubt in my

  • ...you haven't yet applied the tiny patch to fix minicpan's issue with spaces in its config file! bug here [cpan.org]

    (you were also once very aggressive towards me on IRC; but, to your credit, at least you didn't k-line me when I insulted you)

  • listening to that much postal service after 2005 is bizarrely obsessive :-P