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Journal of rafael (2125)

Monday April 29, 2002
03:29 AM

Actual french people

[ #4523 ]
What pisses me off with the electoral success of this facist is that nowadays, racists don't hide themselves. Hating jews and arabs is becoming politically correct among some people. A woman was saying on TV that when (when!) Le Pen is elected, they'll send all jews to Israel, and that jews are not "actual french people". Arabs likewise. Everyone should fight against this.
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  • It really hurts my throat to say this, but we've got to vote Chirac in the second round, and to convince everyone around us that they have to do the same. Unless you're a chiraquian -- and even on the right wing very few people are these days, him being a crook and all that -- it probably hurts, possibly deeply. But it's really got to be an electoral landslide so that we can bury the fascist pig under our votes and tell Chirac at the same time that he wasn't elected by those that support him.

    And th

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    -- Robin Berjon [berjon.com]

    • It really hurts my throat to say this, but we've got to vote Chirac in the second round, and to convince everyone around us that they have to do the same

      Merely theoretical question, mind you, but one what might relate to the current problems in France: What happens under the French constitution if Chirac or Le Pen is elected, and then assassinated? (Or otherwise suddenly dies.)

      • This has come up a bunch of times in many, many discussions recently...

        If a candidate dies during the second round runoff, the elections are cancelled and we start all over again (ie, it isn't the third one that becomes second).

        If a President dies in exercize (it's happened already) there is a short period of interim governed (I think) by the Prime Minister the purpose of which is to have a new election take place.

        In other words there is no vice-president, and yes it's technically a sol

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        -- Robin Berjon [berjon.com]

        • If you know of any suicidal madmen, you'd do 60 million people a big favour

          Far be it for me to advocate the assassination of a foreign "leader" (to do that, I'd have to be in the US State Department) -- but, since when does one have to be a madman to put someone out of the country's misery?

          By the way, is there any provision for "recall elections" under the French constitution? I.e., a petition forcing a re-vote.

          • Well, you might not need to be a madman, but you'd at least need to be suicidal :-) Chirac is still President while he's candidate, and thus under presidential protection (read: real elite stuff). Le Pen has his own squad (in addition to the cops provided for candidate security) called the DPS. Those guys are almost, but not quite, illegal. Not long ago several of them were arrested because they had been hired by "someone" to "someone else" to commit putshes in several African nations. The FN was never f

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            -- Robin Berjon [berjon.com]

        • If a President dies in exercize (it's happened already) there is a short period of interim governed (I think) by the Prime Minister the purpose of which is to have a new election take place.

          I think it's the president of the Senate.

  • Hating jews and arabs is becoming politically correct among some people.

    The effect of the "decentering" part of postmodernism is that every idea sounds equally (in)sane, and (un)worthy of respect or consideration.

    • I rather doubt this is the mechanism at work here. France had a pretty much different approach to contestation when postmodernism came out, and I don't think it had/has the same impact.

      Remember that racism is outlawed in France, even in (public) speech. That's because (to make a long argument short) political freedom is considered superior to the freedom of speech. The reason the FN wasn't forbidden (even though Le Pen was fined many times) was to avoid giving them more cred by making them look lik

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      -- Robin Berjon [berjon.com]

      • France had a pretty much different approach to contestation when postmodernism came out, and I don't think it had/has the same impact.

        What's contestation?

        • Looks like French to me ;-) Contestation is a general term that covers pretty much all forms of disagreement, protest, etc. This includes direct confrontation as well as just doing things differently in such a way that it challenges something else.

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          -- Robin Berjon [berjon.com]

      • France had a pretty much different approach to contestation when postmodernism came out, and I don't think it had/has the same impact.

        Interesting! What's France's approach to contestation (protest/opposition) been?