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  Journal: use Perl; Shutting Down Indefinitely on 2010.09.08 17:07

Journal by pudge on 2010.09.08 17:07
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See here.

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  use Perl; Shutting Down Indefinitely on 2010.09.08 15:51

Posted by pudge on 2010.09.08 15:51
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As I am leaving my current job at Geeknet -- which has generously hosted use Perl; for all these years, since the site began in 2000 -- I am temporarily shutting down use Perl; tomorrow, Thursday, Sept. 8. I plan to leave the site "static" for now, and then perhaps have it reappear elsewhere.
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  Comment: Re:use.perl.org should live (Score 1) on 2010.08.14 17:49

by pudge on 2010.08.14 17:49 (#72313)
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As I am not too interested in working on it anymore, pretty hard, since we'd need someone else to run it. :-)

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  Comment: Re:Thank you (Score 1) on 2010.08.12 11:04

by pudge on 2010.08.12 11:04 (#72309)
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  Comment: Re:Can we migrate it to blogs.perl.org somehow? (Score 1) on 2010.08.12 9:14

by pudge on 2010.08.12 9:14 (#72307)
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I dunno about migrating, but, yes, it is in my head that somehow I will make available the important data so people could import it elsewhere.

Maybe a mysqldump of all the stories, journals, discussions, comments, topics, sections, and the users (just the UID and nickname, maybe). Maybe also the friends/foes stuff.

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  Comment: Re:You know you're not wanted in #perl. (Score 1) on 2010.08.11 21:42

by pudge on 2010.08.11 21:42 (#72302)
Attached to: Matt Trout, aka mst, is insane

Indeed.

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  Journal: use Perl; on 2010.08.11 18:34

Journal by pudge on 2010.08.11 18:34
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I am no longer working for Slashdot/Geeknet as of September 30. I am actively seeking new employment. Unless you want to hire me, you don't need to care, unless you also care about use Perl;, because it has been generously hosted by Geeknet since I started the site over 10 years ago, shortly after I was hired by Andover.Net to work on Slashdot.

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  Comment: Re:rindolf v2.0 (Score 1) on 2010.08.11 13:56

by pudge on 2010.08.11 13:56 (#72295)
Attached to: Matt Trout, aka mst, is insane

You're taking things more personally

See, no, you are seriously confused. The ban was entirely, 100%, personal. It was based entirely on their dislike of me, and nothing else.

You don't contribute anything to the channel.

Shrug. Your opinion is noted, and due to its obvious ignorance, discarded: I many times, regularly, for years helped people with perl, Mac OS, all sorts of things. And I often asked questions and sought help. And people often sought my opinion and help on these and other matters, including, yes, politics.

you attempt to shout down anyone who you have a difference with

Now you're just lying, sungo. I NEVER did that. EVER. Engaging people in discussion -- which, every single time, they willingly engaged in with me -- is not attempting to shout them down. I never, unlike you, banned people I had differences with. I genuinely wanted to, and sought to hear, the opinions of others. That I disagreed with them is not evidence to your claim.

I can understand how bystanders didn't like those discussions, but not participants (which includes mst, by the way ... he sought discussion with me, he got it, and therefore he has no room for complaint).

Do you remember the last presidential election?

Yes, but I was not in #perl for that. Maybe I hopped in once or twice, I can't recall exactly, but not for any prolonged period of time.

Do you think any of that conversation helped irc.perl.org #perl be a better place for people to talk about and learn about perl?

I wasn't there, so I couldn't say. Once again, you're confused.

If you want to contribute to the community in a useful, calm, collaborative fashion, let us know.

First, that's exactly what I was doing when mst banned me. You're confused. I was discussing perl jobs.

Second, mst made clear that he had no interest in "letting him know" anything. He said only -- without any provocation of any kind -- "you're banned. I have zero interest in discussing it. don't come back." You're confused.

Otherwise, you can continue being banned and bitching on your blog like a teenager.

Shrug. I am just looking for answers, so I posted what happened here, since I could not find out in #perl. You and others have given them. So obviously, I made the right choice.

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  Comment: Re:rindolf v2.0 (Score 1) on 2010.08.11 13:22

by pudge on 2010.08.11 13:22 (#72293)
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sungo, you're confused.

You're right that it is not the old #perl, but you're wrong about everything else. Banning people who aren't doing anything bad or wrong is not how you keep people unashamed. There was no fight, mst just has a grudge, along with hobbs and apeiron. It's not about being unashamed, it's about being power-hungry dicks who cannot tolerate people who they have differences with. There's no way I could "help out" with that.

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  Comment: Re:You know you're not wanted in #perl. (Score 1) on 2010.08.11 13:21

by pudge on 2010.08.11 13:21 (#72292)
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rcaputo: I know who he is. I am saying, who the hell is he?

That is, who is he to ban me for no reason? Why should anyone be banning anyone who isn't causing any problems?

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  Comment: Re:You know you're not wanted in #perl. (Score 1) on 2010.08.11 13:14

by pudge on 2010.08.11 13:14 (#72290)
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hobbs: Sorry, who the hell are you?

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  Comment: Re:rindolf v2.0 (Score 1) on 2010.08.11 12:53

by pudge on 2010.08.11 12:53 (#72286)
Attached to: Matt Trout, aka mst, is insane

If you mean I literally sound like him, then wow, no, I don't. At all. :-)

If you mean my situation sounds like his, then yeah, a bit. Back then, it was considered bad form to ban people for disliking them, even Shlomi FIsh/rindolf. Note my reply on that journal entry: even though I was criticizing Shlomi Fish, I noted sungo was wrong to ban him.

That's how #perl pretty much always was, since it became a social channel. Apparently mst and apeiron have ruined it, as this is apparently now standard practice.

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  Journal: Matt Trout, aka mst, is insane on 2010.08.11 11:41

Journal by pudge on 2010.08.11 11:41
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Wow. I occasionally, but not too often, go into #perl. Very busy with family and life. So I go in today, and for no reason, mst bans me and tells me to not come back.

What's up with him being such an irrational dick?

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  Journal: Summary of Celtics vs. Lakers NBA Finals History on 2010.05.30 0:25

Journal by pudge on 2010.05.30 0:25
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There have been 60 NBA Finals. The Boston Celtics have won 17, and the Minneapolis/Los Angeles Lakers have won 15, which amounts to those teams winning more than half of all NBA Finals. This year, they play each other in the Finals again, making it 33 champions out of 61 being either the Lakers or the Celtics.

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  Comment: Yay Jesse! (Score 1) on 2010.05.28 14:23

by pudge on 2010.05.28 14:23 (#72011)
Attached to: Perl 5.12.1 now available

Keep up the good work.

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