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perigrin (3495)

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After Middle School Chris bounced through various high schools around the state of Florida for a bit. He ended up getting a BA (in English) from the University of Central Florida at about the time others his age were getting their MAs. His (now) wife, their child, and he went to Europe for a bit (there was a programming job in Scotland) and came back unemployed where upon he got offered a job in St. Paul. He moved on from that job after a few years to one where he was paid to do the things he previously did as a hobby. That sounds much more exciting than it really was. Really his life is based on two kids, two cats, and a bunny.

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Friday April 03, 2009
07:44 PM

What a Moose programmer would think...

[ #38749 ]

So I’ve been integrating Ash Berlin’s work on making MooseX::POE work with MooseX::Declare. One of the things I came across was that the method keyword didn’t work as I expected.

I figured that something like:

class Counter { use MooseX::POE; method START { $self->yield('increment_counter'); } event 'counter' => method { $self->counter($self->counter + 1); }; }

would DWIM. But currently a method without a parameter list is slightly undefined. It happens to default to the same as an empty parameter list (ie method ($self:) { ... }) but Florian and Ash both agreed that perhaps that wasn’t the best choice. To my mind I think that the right choice is that method { ... } should be the equivlent of method ($self, @_) { ... }. That is it should alias the invocant and pass through the rest of the args as a slurpy array.

Then tonight I was reading the Perl 6 Design Minutes for 26 March 2009 and found the following:


  • if you have a method declared without a parameter list, does it get @_ like a sub, or no parameters?


  • I've been thinking it comes in the same way Perl 5 does it
  • hadn't bothered to try to think about it the other way


  • Rakudo assumes @_


  • but it leaves out the invocant
  • that's the difference
  • I haven't decided
  • it's further from what a Perl 5 programmer might expect
  • but it might be more useful

I think it’s closer to what a Perl 5 Moose programmer expects than Larry thinks.

UPDATED: upon talking with Ash I've clarified what I meant to say. Never blog while tired.

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