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Friday July 05, 2002
02:58 AM


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I'm actively participating on a small scale in the anybrowser campaign. I use Opera 6.0 when I can, and increasingly I'm finding that I can't. Sites such as

just don't work under Opera 6.0. I've emailed Argos and Odeon (both of which are apparently just about to do a redesign which will solve these problems) and the Trainline, who replied with a bland email to recommend that I use Internet Explorer. I'm waiting for their response to my reply on that.

I'm stating the following in these emails

  • I am a genuine customer (or potential customer) of the site
  • My preferred browser is Opera 6.0, which I am unable to use
  • It is possible to create a site that caters for all browsers
  • This is recommended by internet standards (links to W3C and anybrowser)

Not sure that this will have a great effect, but I suppose every little helps, and it makes that site management realise that there are some customers who are pushing for web standards.

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