http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/ mugwumpjism's use Perl Journal en-us use Perl; is Copyright 1998-2006, Chris Nandor. Stories, comments, journals, and other submissions posted on use Perl; are Copyright their respective owners. 2012-01-25T02:19:07+00:00 pudge pudge@perl.org Technology hourly 1 1970-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://use.perl.org/images/topics/useperl.gif http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/ http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/36436?from=rss <p>One of the nasty things about the recent OpenSSH vulnerability is that it affects non-debian systems, too. </p><p>Thankfully the script to find the bad keys was written in Perl. With a bit of back-porting, I managed to get it to work with perl 5.6.1, and thanks to the magic of <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-Install">Module::Install</a>, I have made a tarball which includes the dependencies of the debian-published script and uploaded to CPAN as <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Dowse-BadSSH">Dowse::BadSSH</a>. </p><p>Unlike the published script, the updated <tt>dowkd.pl</tt> is capable of removing bad keys and checks more places on the system, such as known_hosts files and the system host key. </p><p>Portability patches more than welcomed. </p><p>Yes, I realise I probably should have based my work off <a href="http://repo.or.cz/w/dowkd.git">the upstream sources</a> </p><p>Also available from <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/Dowse-BadSSH-0.04.tar.gz">utsl.gen.nz</a>. Note there were not one but two brown paper bag releases for this. You want at least version 0.04 to safely use the '-r' option.</p> mugwumpjism 2008-05-16T01:26:57+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35827?from=rss <p>That's like ancient history by now. But there's a new <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=change-33412">gittorrent references file</a> for a distribution if you don't need to be up to date. A shallow clone of blead works out to be a 16MB download. A full clone of the ~37,733 commits in the repository is about a 112MB download. </p><p>And for the record,<br> <code> Com-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pump-&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Notes<br> mits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;king&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(by&nbsp;no&nbsp;means<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comprehensive,<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;see&nbsp;Changes*<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;details)<br> ===============================================================================<nobr>=<wbr></nobr> ===<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Leon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=shortlog;h=maint-5.005">maint-5.005</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2007-Oct-02<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Nicholas&nbsp;5.8.5-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Jul-06<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.5-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Jul-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Jul-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.6-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Nov-11<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Nov-27<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.7-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2005-May-18<br> 23,900&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.8.7">5.8.7</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2005-May-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.8-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2006-Jan-20<br> 24,294&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.8.8">5.8.8</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2006-Jan-31<br> 25,218&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=shortlog;h=maint-5.8">maint-5.8</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2008-Mar-03<br> <br> 23,217&nbsp;&nbsp;Rafael&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.9.2">5.9.2</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2005-Apr-01<br> 25,521&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.9.3">5.9.3</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2006-Jan-28<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.9.4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2006-Aug-15<br> 29,291&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.9.3">5.9.5</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2007-Jul-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.10.0-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2007-Nov-17<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.10.0-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2007-Nov-25<br> 30,191&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.10.0">5.10.0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2007-Dec-18<br> 30,256&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=shortlog;h=maint-5.10">maint-5.10</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2008-Mar-03<br> 30,813&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=shortlog;h=blead">blead</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2008-Mar-03<br> <br> </code></p> mugwumpjism 2008-03-03T22:10:55+00:00 newsnews http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35824?from=rss <p>Freshly up - <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=change-22739">a fresh batch of changes</a> <code> Com-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pump-&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Notes<br> mits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;king&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(by&nbsp;no&nbsp;means<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comprehensive,<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;see&nbsp;Changes*<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;details)<br> ===============================================================================<nobr>=<wbr></nobr> ===<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Leon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_04-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Feb-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_04-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Feb-18<br> 3,943&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.005_04">5.005_04</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Feb-23<br> [...]<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rafael&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.2-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Nov-08<br> 8,089&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.6.2">5.6.2</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Nov-15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Fix&nbsp;new&nbsp;build&nbsp;issues<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jarkko&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.7.0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Sep-02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;5.7&nbsp;track:&nbsp;Development.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.7.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2001-Apr-09<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.7.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2001-Jul-13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Virtual&nbsp;release&nbsp;candidate&nbsp;0.<br> 15,424&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.7.3">5.7.3</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2002-Mar-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.0-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2002-Jun-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.0-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2002-Jun-21<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.0-RC3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2002-Jul-13<br> 18,560&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.8.0">5.8.0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2002-Jul-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.1-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Jul-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.1-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Jul-11<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.1-RC3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Jul-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.1-RC4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Aug-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.1-RC5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Sep-22<br> 19,911&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.8.1">5.8.1</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Sep-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Nicholas&nbsp;5.8.2-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Oct-27<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.2-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Nov-03<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Nov-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.3-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Jan-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Jan-14<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.4-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Apr-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.8.4-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Apr-15<br> 20,328&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.8.4">5.8.4</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Apr-21<br> <br> 21,401&nbsp;&nbsp;Hugo&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;,<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.9.0">5.9.0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Oct-27<br> 22,007&nbsp;&nbsp;Rafael&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.9.1">5.9.1</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2004-Mar-16<br> </code></p> mugwumpjism 2008-03-03T12:47:14+00:00 newsnews http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35822?from=rss <p>Change 9999 already! That's quite a few releases... new GitTorrent references tag is at <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=change-9999">this link</a>. </p><p>For funsies, here's another section of the records:</p><p> <code> Com-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pump-&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Notes<br> mits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;king&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(by&nbsp;no&nbsp;means<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comprehensive,<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;see&nbsp;Changes*<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;details)<br> ============================================================================<br> 3460&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Gsar">Sarathy</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.005">5.005</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Jul-22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Oneperl.<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sarathy&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_01&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Jul-27&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;5.005&nbsp;maintenance&nbsp;track.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_02-T1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Aug-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_02-T2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Aug-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Aug-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Graham">Graham</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_03-MT1&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Nov-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_03-MT2&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Jan-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_03-MT3&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Jan-17<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_03-MT4&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Jan-26<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_03-MT5&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Jan-28<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_03-MT6&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Mar-05<br> 3907&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.005_03">5.005_03</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Mar-28<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sarathy&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_50&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Jul-26&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;5.6&nbsp;development&nbsp;track.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_51&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Aug-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_52&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Sep-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_53&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Oct-31<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_54&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1998-Nov-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_55&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Feb-16<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_56&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Mar-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_57&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-May-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_58&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Jul-27<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_59&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Aug-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_60&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Aug-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_61&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Aug-20<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_62&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Oct-15<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.005_63&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1999-Dec-09<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.5.640&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Feb-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.5.650&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Feb-08&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;beta1<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.5.660&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Feb-22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;beta2<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.5.670&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Feb-29&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;beta3<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.0-RC1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Mar-09&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;candidate&nbsp;1.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.0-RC2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Mar-14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;candidate&nbsp;2.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.0-RC3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Mar-21&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;candidate&nbsp;3.<br> 7223&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.6.0">5.6.0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Mar-22<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sarathy&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.1-TRIAL1&nbsp;&nbsp;2000-Dec-18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;5.6&nbsp;maintenance&nbsp;track.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.1-TRIAL2&nbsp;&nbsp;2001-Jan-31<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.1-TRIAL3&nbsp;&nbsp;2001-Mar-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.6.1-foolish&nbsp;2001-Apr-01&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;"fools-gold"&nbsp;release.<br> 8003&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=perl-5.6.1">5.6.1</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2001-Apr-08<br> </code> The "commits" column is the approximate number of discrete changes in that version of Perl, not the number of changes in the entire repository. At Change 9999, there are 12266 revisions in git.</p> mugwumpjism 2008-03-03T08:54:29+00:00 newsnews http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35521?from=rss <p>Will the Parrot team finish Perl 6 before I finish converting the Perl 5 history to git? </p><p>Who knows<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but it looks like I will end up missing my original target release date. I just haven't had the energy recently to burn the midnight oil for it. </p><p>However, I have managed to <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=git-p4raw;a=commitdiff;h=d6e257af72f918637185bb916b71ba174d2a6296#patch1">knock off</a> one of the reasonably difficult TODO items in my Perforce importer. I think this one was responsible for most of the discrepancies between the preview one and the rsync blead. There's a couple of problems of this scale left, which will culminate in the nastiest queries and techniques employed by the tool being removed. </p><p>I'm quite happy that I developed this along the way using the stable development style, otherwise it would have been truly shattered by now<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-). At least when progress is slow, it can be steady. </p><p>Well, with a bit of luck I'll solve the other two biggies with a couple of those "magic" nights you get every now and then over the next few weeks. I'll post here once I get a decent preview export out of this version, and will continue to update as I work on the project.</p> mugwumpjism 2008-01-30T14:13:05+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35194?from=rss <p>The maintenance release 5.004_05 seems a reasonable place to call it a day. Several changes on the maint-5.004 branch were expanded using the same scripts that were used to extract commits from the early 5.004_NN-series patches. </p><p>Additionally, there are now new rules that aim to place "soft"-links (commit IDs embedded in the commit message) when change numbers are used in commits. </p><p> <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=change-999">References File</a></p> mugwumpjism 2007-12-23T16:46:52+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35192?from=rss <p>Ok, so I might have built an exporter which can export 100s of commits per second;</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>second.maia:~/src/perl.clean$ time git-p4raw export-commits -n 400<br>git-p4raw: gathering export plan<br>git-p4raw: exporting commits between 525 and 924<br>100% [===============================================================]D 0h00m00sgit-p4raw: Now checkpointing.<br>warning: Not updating refs/heads/p4/perl (new tip ef9eefa4f9098fbcc59c2aba28c73f4e071fe88f does not contain 5ec5d678e03468a8d1d3cb0b3863aacb4ba75233)<br>warning: Not updating refs/heads/p4/ansiperl (new tip d869d2901d6cf3197af2842a1cd2aca6fcea7024 does not contain c864495f8aa5c60a65eec5f015666b8f3ea5ae96)<br>warning: Not updating refs/heads/p4/win32/perl (new tip 15d3ab12d6f67a93f4836715f854ade61f9f6030 does not contain 1e696528467d711508235105c2294a1911fc12ad)<br>git-p4raw: waited 1s for p4raw.8790.marks to be created<br> <br>real&nbsp; &nbsp; 0m2.528s<br>user&nbsp; &nbsp; 0m0.636s<br>sys&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0m0.056s<br>maia:~/src/perl.clean$ </tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>However there are some changes which are just begging to be made<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I've added a <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=git-p4raw;a=commitdiff;h=b458774a5231a562283c35cd1620e772bbbe6127;hp=2266f9413e872796685c1c707fad36e8e9f85276">customization</a> to the part which returns a commit message from a perforce change. This is taking much of the older in-band data, back into its correct header places. </p><p>One of the common practices through the history is to refer to other changes by numbers. So, I made the <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=git-p4raw;a=commitdiff;h=2266f9413e872796685c1c707fad36e8e9f85276;hp=74268106d3c9a7ed63ee3a569ba28cb533905c2e">add extra links to the commits</a>. As the model of git-fast-import is to just fire the objects at it and let it calculate the SHA1, this required a <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=git-p4raw;a=blob;f=0001-git-fast-import-s-X-N-X-substr-mark-2.patch;h=4d167aecb4f69a5508242636feb354f8242e8bca;hb=2266f9413e872796685c1c707fad36e8e9f85276">hack to git-fast-import</a>. Hack it may well be, but it looks like it <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=commit;h=945eca2996b248214d83f63300a417d3602c0860">works</a>. </p><p> <b>Update:</b> <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=change-379">GitTorrent references file</a></p> mugwumpjism 2007-12-23T09:28:12+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35146?from=rss Today I published the <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=birthday-release-3">Incomplete history of Perl</a> as my birthday gift to Perl. Users of git or mercurial can perform the initial clone now and avoid the rush later:<blockquote><div><p> <tt>git clone git://utsl.gen.nz/perl</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>(also available via HTTP at <tt>http://git.utsl.gen.nz/perl</tt>)</p><p>Note that the preparation of this history has involved many long toiling hours of correlation of changelog information, searching for and attempting to apply literally thousands of patches from p5p archives and comparing them to the binary releases, etc. I believe it to be a significant achievement into the restoration of the early revisions of Perl. It certainly wouldn't have been possible without the support of my employer, <a href="http://www.catalyst.net.nz/">Catalyst IT</a>, and of course the wonderful revision toolkit that is <a href="http://repo.or.cz/">Git</a>.</p> mugwumpjism 2007-12-19T07:52:06+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35122?from=rss Now featuring almost 2,000 commits up to Perforce Change 128. <p>Here is the <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=21e4c95c6aee4eb47435c8baa0347ebab6cc2f67">release announcement references file</a>.</p> mugwumpjism 2007-12-17T17:13:20+00:00 newsnews http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35119?from=rss Using the <a href="http://gittorrent.utsl.gen.nz/rfc.html#peer-state-references">REFERENCES</a> message, the seeder's peer uploads <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=perl;a=tag;h=883045e15cd42923a47fcc119e09c0868b2f593b">this signed update</a> to a couple of neighbouring peers. The peers verify the signature, and begin to request blocks from the seeding peer. The new 1MB or so of delta compressed content is distributed across the swarm in under a minute. mugwumpjism 2007-12-17T14:12:05+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35116?from=rss There's no working <a href="http://gittorrent.utsl.gen.nz/rfc.html">GitTorrent</a> implementation yet (I'm <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=VCS-Git-Torrent">working on it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</a>, but here's a <a href="http://gittorrent.utsl.gen.nz/rfc.html#references">references file</a> anyway for an initial injection of the perl history.<blockquote><div><p> <tt>object 79a55ab9c5f2ae29fbdc495be80567680330f873<br>type tag<br>tag seed<br>tagger Sam Vilain &lt;sam@vilain.net&gt; 1197871162 +1300<br> <br>A complete history of Perl to 5.004_02<br> <br>There would have been more in this first injection, but 5.004_03 was<br>just too good a release to skip over with a single change.<br> <br>8490252049bf42d3d2f75d89178a8682bf22ba74 HEAD<br>8490252049bf42d3d2f75d89178a8682bf22ba74 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possibly on <tt>cpan.perl.org</tt>, using the git 1.5+ commands: </p><p> <code>git remote rm origin<br>git remote add origin git://git.perl.org/perl</code> </p><p>Many thanks to Catalyst for the bandwidth, hosting, and letting me spend working hours on this stuff.</p> mugwumpjism 2007-12-17T06:38:42+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/35025?from=rss <p>Well, some time has passed, and I am getting very close to making a release of the Perl 5 project history, converted to git. </p><p>I would have written <a href="http://vilain.net/index.php?q=node/41">this article about it</a> on this site, but I wanted to include the gitk screenshots<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-). If you're interested on how the Perforce to Git conversion happened, then read this article!</p> mugwumpjism 2007-12-01T15:33:37+00:00 newsnews http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34549?from=rss Just a quick update - I have decided to re-shape the messy proof-of-concept raw importer into a tool which is more useful, allowing access to the information which the previous version just embedded with queries as it needed to. I'd love it if current Perl perforce committers and pumpkins would check <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=git-p4raw;a=commitdiff;h=5fabfe98">the specification</a> out and provide feedback. In particular, if there's a perforce command you'd like explained or think should be catered for by the tool, go ahead and ask<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... mugwumpjism 2007-09-26T13:36:49+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34521?from=rss <p>Today I had my first successful run of <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=git-p4raw">git-p4raw</a>, a program I have been working on recently that imports a Perforce repository from its raw back-end data files. </p><p>The program is actually quite simple, and its approach was inspired by a conversation between myself and Gurusamy Sarathy. Perforce keeps these "checkpoint" and "journal" files which have inside them all of the metadata that it tracks. The file content itself is stored in RCS files which are otherwise uninteresting. So, the program loads this data into tables, throws a few constraints on the tables to confirm my suspicions of how the schema works, and then sets about mining changesets from the tables. As there is MD5 information in the database (for most files, anyway), integrity can be assured along the way and as a result I am very confident that this will be the cleanest conversion yet. </p><p>I still have some work to do: </p><ol> <li>It might be possible to represent some of the branch cross-merges in the history as real merges in git.</li> <li>the 5.004 to 5.004_04 series (Tim Bunce's early maintenance work) is currently represented in Perforce as only 5 changes. I'd like to expand that as I have done with the other pre-perforce series</li> <li>Many changes have embedded author attribution that should be copied into the git "author" field of the commits, so that OHLOH etc has the best information.</li> <li>Final rewriting to glue the old history onto the new.</li> </ol><p>I look forward to announcing the completion of this work! It's been a long, hard slog!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p> mugwumpjism 2007-09-22T13:25:51+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34159?from=rss <p>Ok, so with a bit more work, I've managed to get a full 169 more commits out of the 5.003_08 -&gt; <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.004">5.004</a> series. I'm proud of it as a loving restoration of the history of the period, a tribute to the work that went into this quality Perl release. Perhaps 50% of the changes are attributed and applied separately, including countless patches mined from the Perl 5 porters archives. </p><p>Here are the updated sections of THE RECORDS with the new commit totals: </p><p> <code> THE&nbsp;RECORDS<br> Com-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pump-&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Notes<br> mits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;king&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(by&nbsp;no&nbsp;means<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comprehensive,<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;see&nbsp;Changes*<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;details)<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=======================================================================<nobr>=<wbr></nobr> ===<br> 986&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Chip">Chip</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.003_08">5.003_08</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Nov-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_09&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Nov-26<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Nov-29<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-06<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-20<br> 1092&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_14">5.003_14</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-23<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-23<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-24<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-27<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-31<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_21&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-15<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-16<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_24&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-29<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_26&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_27&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-18<br> 1349&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_28">5.003_28</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-21<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_90&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ramping&nbsp;up&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;5.004&nbsp;release.<nobr> <wbr></nobr> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_91&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_92&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-06<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_93&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_94&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_96&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-01<br> 1596&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_97">5.003_97</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-03&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Fairly&nbsp;widely&nbsp;used.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97b&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-13<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-15<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97f&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-17<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97g&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97h&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-24<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97i&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97j&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-28<br> 1750&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_98">5.003_98</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_99&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_99a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-09<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;p54rc1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;Candidates.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;p54rc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-14<br> <br> 1812&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Chip&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.004">5.004</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A&nbsp;major&nbsp;maintenance&nbsp;release.<br> </code> </p><p>Next mission: lather, rinse, repeat, but with Tim Bunce's 5.004_* so-called 'maintenance' releases. </p><p> <b>Exercise</b>: download <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/perl.git/objects/pack/pack-bf9ec9a22a047c2712011b87e1df228c69976c36.pack">this 8MB pack file</a>, then see if you can find the 1812 commits within. Start with <tt>git index-pack</tt></p> mugwumpjism 2007-08-20T12:58:37+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34150?from=rss Now up to about <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=restorical-v3alpha7">5.003_97d</a>. I already have more commits in the history than I finished with the first time around. Some commit dates are wrong, will be fixed shortly. I'm having difficulty pushing tags<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... will hopefully find out what's going wrong soon. mugwumpjism 2007-08-19T06:35:05+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34135?from=rss I can't embed images in this journal, so <a href="http://vilain.net/index.php?q=node/38">here</a> instead. It's a little examination of how one point release has been represented, with gitk screenshot. mugwumpjism 2007-08-16T23:23:30+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34126?from=rss <p>Another half-day on the history. This time I worked on 5.003_21 through 5.003_91. <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=af35ebf7e4816ca9425aadec48090e4708d6667e">latest version</a>.</p> mugwumpjism 2007-08-16T07:30:30+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34117?from=rss <p>After some quality checks on the pre-perforce history, I decided it would be worth running through the import of the 5.003_08 -&gt; 5.004 series again, but this time with a little more patience. When I ran through it at the reposithon, I was accepting all the defaults and decided that I'd written too fancy an interactive importer to let that be the case. </p><p>Some people might wonder why the importer needs to be interactive, let me say that I'm making dozens of minor corrections along the way. There is a lot of manual work going into it! </p><p>Just today, I've managed to extract another 29 commits out of the 5.003_07 -&gt; 5.003_21 phase of the history, bringing the total from that period from 200 to 229. This might sound minor, but taking the higher quality of the conversion into account I'd say I'm increasing the detail and resolution by about a third to a half. </p><p>However, I am pretty much on a roll with it, and hope to keep going all the way through to the end of about 5.004_04 very soon, which will give a very firm base for putting the Perforce history onto. Thanks to Robert Spiers and John Peacock, I now have a Perforce repository with the metadata extracted. It will be worth doing some re-work of the Perforce importer to get it clean. </p><p>I'm trying to get the project listed on OHLOH - but OHLOH seems to be having some issues. I have written to the maintainers of the site.</p> mugwumpjism 2007-08-15T15:48:02+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34045?from=rss <p>For those who didn't see the <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=restorical-v2">initial release</a>, here's an annotated <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl/pod/perlhist.pod">perlhist</a>; the first column is the number of commits in the history at that point. As I release updates, I will log them here. </p><p> <code> THE&nbsp;RECORDS<br> Com-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pump-&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Notes<br> mits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;king&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(by&nbsp;no&nbsp;means<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comprehensive,<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;see&nbsp;Changes*<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;details)<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=======================================================================<nobr>=<wbr></nobr> ===<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Classified.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Don&#8217;t&nbsp;ask.<br> ada1bfb6c4d1<br> 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Larry">Larry</a> <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-1.0">1.000</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1987-Dec-18<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1.001..<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-1.010">10</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1988-Jan-30<br> 14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1.011..<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-1.014">14</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1988-Feb-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Schwern">Schwern</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;1.0.15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2002-Dec-18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Modernization<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Richard">Richard</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;1.0.16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003-Dec-18<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-2.000">2.000</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1988-Jun-05<br> <br> 17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-2.001">2.001</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1988-Jun-28<br> <br> 19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-2.001">3.000</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1989-Oct-18<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ada1bfb6c4d1">3.001</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1989-Oct-26<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=784e8af9adc4">3.002..4</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1989-Nov-11<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d1e3892e787">3.005</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1989-Nov-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e223e830e62">3.006..8</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1989-Dec-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bacc023fa33">3.009..12</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Mar-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd7b82b21dc0">3.013..14</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Mar-13<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ad8b73d1746">3.015</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Mar-14<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=145755a28c5a">3.016..18</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Mar-28<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d166707f0aae">3.019..27</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Aug-10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;User&nbsp;subs.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=13eed104114b">3.028</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Aug-14<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55cbef4aa38a">3.029..36</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Oct-17<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c964363f708c">3.037</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Oct-20<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84329cee975b">3.038..040</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Nov-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=57a2d3e23b59">3.041</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1990-Nov-13<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9358fa65d8e">3.042..43</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Jan-??<br> 62&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-3.044">3.044</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Jan-12<br> <br> 63&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=a159586cbb67">4.000</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Mar-21<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.001..3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Apr-12<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.004..9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Jun-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.010&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Jun-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.011..18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Nov-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.019&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1991-Nov-11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Stable.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.020..33&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1992-Jun-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.034&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1992-Jun-11<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.035&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1992-Jun-23<br> 99&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-4.0.36">4.036</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1993-Feb-05&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Very&nbsp;stable.<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000alpha1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1993-Jul-31<br> 100&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5a2">5.000alpha2</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1993-Aug-16<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5a3">5.000alpha3</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1993-Oct-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5a4">5.000alpha4</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1993-???-??<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5a5">5.000alpha5</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1993-???-??<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5a6">5.000alpha6</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Mar-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000alpha7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Mar-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Andy">Andy</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5a8">5.000alpha8</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Apr-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5a9">5.000alpha9</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-May-05&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ext&nbsp;appears.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000alpha10&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Jun-11<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000alpha11&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Jul-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a11a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Jul-07&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To&nbsp;fit&nbsp;14.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a11b&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Jul-14<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a11c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Jul-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a11d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Jul-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000alpha12&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12b&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-15<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12f&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-24<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12g&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-24<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000a12h&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-24<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000beta1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Aug-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b1a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-06<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000beta2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Core&nbsp;slushified.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b2a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-14<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b2b&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-17<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b2c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-17<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000beta3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-??<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3b&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-23<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-27<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-28<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3f&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Sep-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3g&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Oct-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000b3h&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Oct-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000gamma&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Oct-13?<br> <br> 109&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5.000">5.000</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Oct-17<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=ac419cfcfe42">5.000a</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1994-Dec-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=d68b9cd28e53">5.000b</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=43a571f37e97">5.000c</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=3bb22b1bdce1">5.000d</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=69bb195668a1">5.000e</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=e623fb575cfc">5.000f</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=ee695892848a">5.000g</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.000h&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=acc789bc0a0b">5.000i</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jan-26<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=8157edb431ae">5.000j</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Feb-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=170ef09c4097">5.000k</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Feb-11<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=b54c23d1339b">5.000l</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Feb-21<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=d849d1eae02e">5.000m</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Feb-28<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=039a0abf3996">5.000n</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Mar-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=6e56b8560de0">5.000o</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Mar-13?<br> <br> 128&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=perl-5.001">5.001</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Mar-13<br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Mar-15<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=696118d8c7a9">5.001b</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Mar-31<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=commit;h=9d9330c055c8">5.001c</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Apr-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Apr-14<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Apr-18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Stable.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001f&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-May-31<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001g&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-May-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001h&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-May-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001i&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-May-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001j&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jun-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001k&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jun-06<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001l&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jun-06&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Stable.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001m&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Jul-02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Very&nbsp;stable.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.001n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Oct-31&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Very&nbsp;unstable.<br> 146&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.002b1">5.002beta1</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Nov-21<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b1a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Dec-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b1b&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Dec-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b1c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Dec-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b1d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Dec-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b1e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Dec-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b1f&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Dec-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Tom">Tom</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b1g&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1995-Dec-21&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Doc&nbsp;release.<br> 207&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.002b1h">5.002b1h</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Jan-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Jan-14<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002b3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Feb-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002gamma&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Feb-11<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.002delta&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Feb-27<br> <br> 321&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.002">5.002</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Feb-29&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Prototypes.<br> <br> 431&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Tom">Charles</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.002_01">5.002_01</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Mar-25<br> <br> 450&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.003">5.003</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Jun-25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Security&nbsp;release.<br> <br> 647&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.003_01">5.003_01</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Jul-31<br> 649&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Nick">Nick</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Aug-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_03&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Aug-28<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_04&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Sep-02<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_05&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Sep-12<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_06&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Oct-07<br> 976&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.003_07">5.003_07</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Oct-10<br> 986&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?Chip">Chip</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=shortlog;h=perl-5.003_08">5.003_08</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Nov-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_09&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Nov-26<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Nov-29<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-06<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-19<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-20<br> 1085&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_14">5.003_14</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-23<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-23<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-24<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-27<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1996-Dec-31<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-07<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_21&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-15<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-16<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_24&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Jan-29<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-04<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_26&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_27&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-18<br> 1310&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_28">5.003_28</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-21<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_90&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Feb-25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ramping&nbsp;up&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;5.004&nbsp;release.<nobr> <wbr></nobr> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_91&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_92&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-06<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_93&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_94&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-22<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Mar-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_96&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-01<br> 1461&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_97">5.003_97</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-03&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Fairly&nbsp;widely&nbsp;used.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-05<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97b&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-08<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97c&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-10<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97d&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-13<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-15<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97f&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-17<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97g&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-18<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97h&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-24<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97i&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-25<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_97j&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-28<br> 1597&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.003_98">5.003_98</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-Apr-30<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_99&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-01<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5.003_99a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-09<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;p54rc1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Release&nbsp;Candidates.<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;p54rc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-14<br> <br> 1643&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Chip&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gitweb/perl.git?p=perl.git;a=tag;h=perl-5.004">5.004</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1997-May-15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A&nbsp;major&nbsp;maintenance&nbsp;release.<br> </code></p> mugwumpjism 2007-08-08T09:46:48+00:00 newsnews http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/34020?from=rss Apparently people <a href="http://packages.debian.org/libscriptalicious-perl">use Scriptalicious;</a> more than I thought. I have fixed a couple of the longstanding niggles with this module and made a <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~samv/Scriptalicious-1.11/">release</a>. See <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=Scriptalicious;a=shortlog;h=v1.11">shortlog</a> for a complete list of changes or the bundled <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~samv/Scriptalicious-1.11/Changes.pod#VERSION_1.11">Changes POD</a>. mugwumpjism 2007-08-07T06:49:52+00:00 modules http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/33958?from=rss <p>As I retrace the steps and patchwork of the early pumpkings, I have had the pleasure to meet and discuss the work with two of them recently, Tim Bunce and Gurusamy Sarathy. Tim was pumpking for the 5.004_* maintenance series and many _50+ releases; Gurusamy looked after a few after Malcolm Beattie. They gave me some hints and tips, particularly explaining what the goodies in <tt> <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl.git;a=tree;f=Porting;h=5090da1871;hb=f3b9ab08ea0b">Porting/</a> </tt> are about, and clarifications of the attribution styles. </p><p>It turns out that the Perforce backing store might be easy enough to trace through, making for a smooth, clean conversion. Extra information will be accompanied with a <a href="http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=perl-history-massage.git">Catalyst Application</a>. This is in addition to a third-party extraction of the information as performed by John Peacock, and all credits due for performing this conversion in something of record time. More data and conversions are good especially when they can be used to cross-check each other.</p> mugwumpjism 2007-08-02T07:57:55+00:00 newsnews http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/33943?from=rss <p>Here they are all <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/">sitting on my servers</a>. </p><p>Beware, they're not such pretty Catalysts </p><p>rebasing soon with good committers! </p><p>Once I see if it's in the repo anywhere<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:). And other good things like all branches visible. See also a BAST import. Couldn't see DBIx::Class there - what happened? Well, If anyone wants to help muck in with conversion, grab the source data, and tell me where it needs to go. You can reply on this comment if you like. It's a bit like a bugtracker except when you can more easily ignore foolish requests. I can give out logins to that machine as required. </p><p>Anyone brave enough to add support to <tt>git-svn</tt> to mirror the root path of projects and mesh together a superproject using <a href="http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git?a=blob;f=Documentation/git-submodule.txt;h=2c48936fcd72c5276ae2fed217bd9b9564342f03;hb=HEAD"> <tt>git-submodule</tt> </a> ? This would be a useful final audit. Also looking for people who might be keen to set up <a href="http://repo.or.cz/w/repo.git">repo</a> on the UTSL network. </p><p>It's unfinished - some repos are still yet to copy. No accuracy or completion claims yet. But coming soon.</p> mugwumpjism 2007-08-01T08:26:19+00:00 journal http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/30907?from=rss <p>Mark Overmeer gave a <a href="http://birmingham2006.com/cgi-bin/yapc.pl?act=talk-item&amp;talkid=51">talk</a> with support from myself at YAPC::Europe 2006 about <a href="http://cpan6.org/">cpan6</a>, the design so far is the result of a collaboration between Mark and myself. The talk was generally well received, and during the conference we have heard many more peoples' concerns. The good news is that there were no new requirements that didn't fit cleanly in the design, in fact it gave some people lots of ideas. I think I can say that we have support for the general direction of things, and now we can open up the debate widely, and start implementing pieces. </p><p>I invite people to join either the <a href="http://lists.cpan6.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/pause6">pause6 mailing list</a> (for infrastructure discussions) or the <a href="http://lists.cpan6.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/tools">cpan6 tools list</a> (for client-side installers and upload tools). </p><p>The earliest task will be looking at the big picture, and seeing which pieces are the low-hanging fruit that we can write tests for straight away. I'll start the ball rolling after we have a few subscriptions.</p> mugwumpjism 2006-09-06T15:12:49+00:00 cpan http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/30728?from=rss <p>This story begins with an effort to store <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose">Moose</a> classes in a Tangram store. Specifically, converting from <tt>Moose::Meta::Class</tt> objects to a <tt>Tangram::Schema</tt> structure. </p><p>The structures are already quite similar. In the Tangram schema, you have a per-class map of <code>(type, name, (details...))</code>. In Moose::Meta::Class, you have a map of <code>(attribute, (details...))</code>, where the <code>details</code> includes a type constraint. Based on the type constraint, you can guess a reasonable <tt>type</tt>. Well, not quite. The next thing you really need is <em>Higher Order Types</em> on your type constraints (called <em>parametric roles</em> in the Perl 6 Cannon). In a nutshell, that's not just saying there's an <tt>Array</tt> somewhere, but saying there's an <tt>Array of</tt> <em>something</em>. Then you can make sure that you put an actual <em>foreign key</em> or <em>link table</em> in that point in the schema, rather than the <tt>oid+type</tt> pair that you get with <tt>Tangram</tt> when you use a <tt>ref</tt> column (and, in recent versions, without specifying a <tt>class</tt>). Getting parametric roles working in Moose is still an open question, but certainly one I hope to find time for. </p><p>So, during this deep contemplation, I thought, well, what would Tangram be adding? I mean, other than the obvious elitism and other associated baggage? Why not just tie the schema to the Moose meta-model, and start a new persistence system from scratch? Or use <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> for all the bits I couldn't be bothered re-writing? </p><p>In principle, there are reasons why you might want the storage schema and the object metamodel to differ. You might not want to map all object properties to database columns, for instance. Or you might want to use your own special mapping for them - not just the default. </p><p>Then I thought, how often did I do that? I added a <tt>transient</tt> type in <tt>Class::Tangram</tt> for columns that were not mapped, but only rarely used it, and never for data that I couldn't derive from the formal columns or some other truly transient source. I only used the <tt>idbif</tt> mapping type for classes when I didn't have the time to describe their entire model. So, perhaps a storage system that just ties these two things together would be enough of a good start that the rest wouldn't matter. </p><p> <strong>The Evil Plan to NOT refactor Tangram using <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> </strong> </p><p>Ok, so the plan is basically this. Take the Tangram API, and make the core bits that I remember using into thin wrappers around <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> and friends. Then, all of the stuff under the hood that was a headache working with, I'll conveniently forget to port. That way, it won't be a source compatible refactoring, just enough to let people who liked the Tangram API do similar sorts of things with <tt>DBIx::Class</tt>. </p><p>The first thing I remember using is a schema object for the connection, if only because of acme's reaction when I say "schema". In a talk I'd use a UML diagram at this point, but given <tt>&lt;img&gt;</tt> tags are banned, instead let's use Moose code.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> package DBIx::Moose::Schema;<br> use Moose;<br> has '$.classes' =&gt; (is =&gt; 'ro',<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;isa =&gt; 'Set of Moose::Meta::Class',<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;);</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Alright. So, we have a schema which is composed of Moose Classes. The next thing we need is a Storage object that has the bits we want;</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> package DBIx::Moose::Storage;<br> use Moose;<br> use Set::Object qw(weak_set);<br> has '$:db' =&gt; (is =&gt; 'ro', isa =&gt; "DBIx::Class::Schema");<br> has '$:objects' =&gt; (is =&gt; 'rw', isa =&gt; "Set::Object",<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;default =&gt; sub { weak_set() } );<br> has '$.schema' =&gt; (is =&gt; 'ro',<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; isa =&gt; "DBIx::Moose::Schema");</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>That <tt>weak_set</tt> is a little bit of magic I cooked up for nothingmuch recently. All we're doing is keeping references to the objects we've already loaded from the database, primarily for transactional consistency. Actually, Tangram uses there a hash from an <tt>oid</tt> to a weak reference to the member with that <tt>oid</tt>, but I think that <tt>oids</tt> suck. In Perl memory, the <tt>refaddr</tt> can be the <tt>oid</tt>. </p><p>And we'd need an overloaded query interface;</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> package DBIx::Moose::Remote;<br> use Moose;<br> has '$._storage' =&gt; (is =&gt; 'ro', weak =&gt; 1,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;isa =&gt; "DBIx::Moose::Storage");<br> has '$._class' =&gt; (is =&gt; 'ro',<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;isa =&gt; "Moose::Meta::Class");<br> has '$._resultset' =&gt; (is =&gt; 'ro',<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;isa =&gt; "DBIx::Class::ResultSet",<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;default =&gt; \&amp;_rs_default,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;);<br> sub _rs_default {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;my $self = shift;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;$self-&gt;_storage-&gt;resultset($self-&gt;_class);<br> }</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>So, hopefully, the <tt>DBIx::Class::ResultSet</tt> API will be rich enough to be able to deal with all the things I did with <tt>Tangram</tt>, or at least it will given enough TH^HLC. </p><p>There will be a bit of double-handling of objects involved. Basically, the objects that we get back from <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> will be freed very soon after loading, their values passed to a schema-specified constructor (probably just <tt>Class-&gt;new</tt>), and then their slots that contain collections that are not already loaded set up to lazy load the referant collections on access. This happens already in Tangram; the intermediate rows are the arrayrefs returned by <code>DBI::fetchrow_arrayref()</code>. So there will be lots of classes, perhaps under <tt>DBIx::Moose::DB::</tt>, that mirror the objects in the schema. Perhaps we don't need that, but it should be a good enough starting point, and if it can be eliminated entirely later on, then all the better. (<b>Update:</b> Matt has kindly pointed me to the part of the API that deals with this; this shouldn't be a problem at all) </p><p> <strong>Mapping the Index from the Class</strong> </p><p>One of the nice things about a database index is that it's basically a performance 'hack' only (because databases are too dumb to know what to index themselves), and do not actually affect the operation of the database. So, for the most part, we can ignore mapping indices and claim we are doing the 'correct' thing<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>;)</tt>. </p><p>That is, unless the index happens to be a <em>unique index</em> or a <em>primary key</em>. What those add is a <em>uniqueness constraint</em>, which <em>does</em> affect the way that the object behaves. So, what of that? </p><p>Interestingly, Perl 6 has the concept of a special<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.id</tt> property. If two object references have the same<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.id</tt> property, then they are considered to be <em>the same object</em>. This has some interesting implications. </p><p>After all, isn't this;</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> class Book;<br> has Str $.isbn where {<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.chars &lt; 255 };<br> method id {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;$.isbn;<br> }</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>The same thing as this?</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>CREATE TABLE Book (<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; isbn VARCHAR(255);<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; UNIQUE PRIMARY KEY (isbn);<br>);</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>So, we can perhaps map this in Perl 6 code, at least map one uniqueness constraint per type. Generalising this to multiple uniqueness constraints is probably something left best to our Great Benevolant Navel-Gazers. In the short term, we'll need to come up with some other kind of way of specifying this per-class; probably a <tt>Moose::Util::UniquenessConstraint</tt> or somesuch. </p><p> <strong>Mapping Inheritance</strong> </p><p>Alright, so we still have inheritance to deal with. But wait! We've got a bigger, brighter picture with Moose. We've now got roles. </p><p>Fortunately, this is OK. The Tangram <tt>type</tt> column was only ever used (conceptually, anyway) to derive a <em>bitmap</em> of associated (ie, sharing a primary key) tables that we expect to find rows in for a particular tuple. So, if we map the role's properties to columns, then we only have to "duplicate" columns for particular roles, if those roles are composed into classes that don't share a common primary key. </p><p> <strong>The other features</strong> </p><p>Well, there may be other important features that I'll remember when the time comes, but for now I think there's enough ideas here to form a core roadmap, or at least provide a starting point for discussion.</p> mugwumpjism 2006-08-23T12:27:02+00:00 yapce http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/30712?from=rss <p>One of the coolest things about "Object Persistence", is that it has the word "Object" in it, which of course means better than anything that was around before "Object Oriented Programming" was decided to be flavour of the decade. Even better than that, it even has the word "Persistence" in it, which sounds much more sophisticated and modern than "Database" or "Relational". </p><p>Then are shiny tools in this space, like Hibernate for Java. Using Hibernate, you can make an Enterprisey Macchiato Java Servlet that blends your database to a set of Java objects, and then provides Soaped-up Beany Hyper-galactic XML Web services for other parts of your Enterprisey code base to access. It's fantastic - you end up with a set of tables (all with surrogate IDs, of course) that you are guaranteed to not be able to write to safely from anything except the Java Server. This puts the Java developer in control. Which is the way (s)he likes it. Maybe hibernate doesn't have to work like this, but (s)he prefers it because it means that all the changes to the objects have to go through the same central set of functions. Otherwise, the development investment is wasted. And we can't have that, not at the price it cost. </p><p>Anyway, Tangram is not quite so antisocial as that. It at least behaves transactionally, given appropriate use of <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~samv/Tangram-2.10/lib/Tangram/Storage.pod#unload_all(_%5B_%24notify_method_%5D)"> <code>$storage-&gt;unload_all</code> </a> (also <tt>-&gt;recycle</tt>) and distribution of clue. But it is currently anti-social in other ways, such as the surrogate ID requirement. </p><p> <strong>Wait a minute - the database has<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.oids, too</strong> </p><p>Postgres, and Oracle, both have a concept of<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.rowid</tt>; all tables except for 'index organised tables' have them by nature. I have observed that in the vast majority of code that uses the Tangram API, I never need to use or refer to this<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.id</tt>; in fact, when storing an object in multiple stores, its<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.id</tt> will vary across those stores. In light of this, while I consider surrogate IDs a design flaw - it's not a tragic one, it's consistent with what the database does anyway, and it has allowed for interesting patterns to be built in the mean-time while better ideas come forth. For a more detailed analysis of what I think is wrong with Tangram, see the <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Tangram/lib/Tangram/Sucks.pm">bugs POD file</a> in the Tangram distribution, especially the <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Tangram/lib/Tangram/Sucks.pm#tables_without_a_type_column">section on surrogate type columns</a> (actually I've just tidied those up, if you're reading this before I make a release then read the fresh one <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=Tangram;a=blob;h=cc70b396;hb=doc-updates;f=lib/Tangram/Sucks.pm">here</a>). </p><p> <strong>What defines "Object Persistence"?</strong> </p><p>Again, hazarding a set of common features of object persistence tools that could plausibly form part of a definition; </p><ol> <li>They normally <em>do</em> have requirements of the database; usually not all valid DDL models can be mapped to a set of objects.</li> <li>They will map features of objects not usually considered relational concepts such as inheritance and Perl structures like Arrays and Hashes.</li> </ol><p> <strong>What's so cool about Tangram</strong> </p><p>The key design feature of Tangram is what is frequently referred to as being <em>orthogonal</em> - it is normally non-intrusive on the objects being stored. A given object may even exist in multiple stores simultaneously (but be represented by the same Perl object). The result? Classes do not need to be aware of their storage; any more than a tuple needs to know it's being stored in a table space. </p><p>This is implemented with <em>Lazy Loading</em>. The in-memory data structure is considered equivalent to the database form; via types such as <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~samv/Tangram/lib/Tangram/Type/Set/FromOne.pod">Tangram::Type::Set::FromOne</a>, it is possible to follow joins between tables by just walking Perl objects with visitor iterators like <tt>Data::Dumper</tt>. </p><p> <strong>Tangram Querying</strong> </p><p>For the cases where you have specific questions for your data model, and you are not just following adjacent relations between objects, lazy loading is not enough. We still need some form of query syntax. </p><p>For this, Tangram uses <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~samv/Tangram/lib/Tangram/Expr.pod"> <tt>Tangram::Expr</tt> </a> objects that represent <em>database objects</em> - and they use <tt>overload</tt> so that you can write your query expressions using standard perl operators (as far as <tt>overload</tt> allows). Depending on your inclination, you either "run screaming" from this syntax or love it. </p><p>In my experience, Tangram's query syntax makes some previously hard queries easy, and some "impossibly difficult" queries easy. You can build intricate joins with a consistent notation. For example, process a form, make a list of <tt>Tangram::Expr</tt> fragments, and then combine them into a filter that can be used for multiple queries.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>&nbsp; # get the table aliases<br>&nbsp; my ($r_artist, $r_cd, $r_track)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = $storage-&gt;remote(qw(Artist CD Track));<br> <br>&nbsp; # build a set of filter expressions - some of these<br>&nbsp; # represent joins.<br>&nbsp; my @filters =<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ( ( $r_artist-&gt;{name} eq "The Black Seeds" ),<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ( $r_cd-&gt;{artist} == $r_artist ),<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ( $r_cd-&gt;{tracks}-&gt;includes($r_track) ),<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ( $r_track-&gt;{name} eq "Heavy Mono E" )&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; );<br> <br>&nbsp; # AND them all together<br>&nbsp; my $filter = reduce { $a &amp; $b } @filters;<br> <br>&nbsp; # then use them for queries<br>&nbsp; my (@cds)&nbsp; &nbsp; = $storage-&gt;select( $r_cd, $filter );<br>&nbsp; my (@tracks) = $storage-&gt;select( $r_track, $filter );</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>The query there is already getting reasonably impressive; the first <code>-&gt;select()</code> maps to:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> SELECT<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t1.id,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t1.type,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t1.artist_id,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t1.name<br> FROM<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; CD t1,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; Artist t2,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; Track t3<br> WHERE<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t1.artist_id = t2.id&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;AND<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t2.name = "The Black Seeds"&nbsp; AND<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t3.cd = t1.id&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; AND<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t3.name = "Heavy Mono E"</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>This is a simple example, and I have found that there are very few real queries on well designed schema that do not map to this syntax well. That being said, sub-selects require an undocumented syntax, and while I have some sympathy to the notion that you should be able to write sub-selects as joins most of the time, it's certainly an example that the API hasn't been extended in all directions yet. </p><p> <strong>Tangram Maps Inheritance</strong> </p><p>There are those that would say inheritance is about a relational a concept as an<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.mdb</tt> file, but I think that there is adequate justification for its use in data modelling. </p><p>A good question to ask when validating a relational schema to be normal form, is "what does this relation mean?" or "what fact is being represented by this tuple?". We can ask this question for all tables - and the basic answer is "there exists an object with these values"&#185;. The fact is that the object exists. Better answers can be made for individual tables; consider that answer a template - ask a meta-question, get a meta-answer. </p><p>This is where the argument for inheritance stems. The relations still describe existence of an object, but certain types of objects will have extra items in their tuple - relations to the extra properties bestowed upon them by their sub-classes. </p><p>In the <a href="http://search.cpan.org/src/SAMV/Tangram-2.10/t/musicstore/MusicStore.pm">CD store schema</a>, for instance, 'Artist', 'Person' (perhaps better called 'Musician') and 'Band' are related like this. The justification is, that an artist can be either a musician or a band, but if we are relating to something in its capacity as an artist (ie, from the CD table, to say who released it), there also exists by association a relationship between the CD and all of the properties of the artist in its capacity of a musician or a band. </p><p>Tangram short-cuts the query overhead of this situation using a '<tt>type</tt>' column. The type column is an index into the schema, and is used to derive a bitmap of which extra tables associated with a base class are expected to have rows for this primary key. This is a de-normalization of data, so technically a hack - as noted on <tt>Tangram::Sucks</tt>, it should be possible to detect the type using the presence or absence of tuples in the corresponding tables. Or, somewhat equivalently, <tt>NULL</tt>s when using "Horizontal" mapping - see <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~samv/Tangram-2.10/lib/Tangram/Relational/Mappings.pod"> <tt>Tangram::Relational::Mappings</tt> </a> for a description of these terms). I'm told that David Wheeler's <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~dwheeler/Object-Relation/"> <tt>Object::Relation</tt> </a> can work like this. </p><p> <strong>But what about the Schema?</strong> </p><p>Having a schema structure that is <em>free from side-effects</em> can be quite useful. Tangram has this down well; its input is a plain set of perl hashes and arrays, no side effects. If you want to use the pure objects to create code, you can still pass them to <tt>Class::Tangram::Generator</tt>. If you want to connect to storage, pass to <tt>Tangram::Storage</tt>. <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/T2">T2</a> was my attempt at making a set of objects that can both describe this Tangram model relationally, and itself be stored in a Tangram database. This is useful for building <em>rapid application development</em> / <em>Computer-Aided Software Engineering</em> (RAD / CASE) tools. Consider <a href="http://uml.sourceforge.net/">Umbrello</a>; it could not compile classes as the objects were manipulated, otherwise you might override internal behaviour and break the running program! </p><p> <strong>You don't have to write comprehensive schemata any more</strong> </p><p>Consider the package manager, <a href="http://fink.sourceforge.net/">Fink</a>. Whilst using <tt>Storable</tt> for persistence can make applications like Fink faster by reducing parse time to load their entire state at start-up, it is still not as fast as a Berkeley, ISAM or SQLite-style database which is loaded on demand for small accesses.</p><p>The general approach is not making the whole schema relational in one go, but instead cherry-picking out the columns that you think are useful enough to be indexed, and throwing the rest into a single column that contains a <tt>Storable</tt>, <tt>Data::Dumper</tt> or even <tt>YAML</tt> data field which is used to construct the rest of the object. <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~samv/Tangram/lib/Tangram/Type/Dump/Any.pm"> <tt>Tangram::Type::Dump::Any</tt> </a> is built for this. I wrote a Tangram schema for Fink that does this, which is <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/fink/">lurking here</a>.</p><p>You end up with a data source which can be queried on all mapped columns, and almost all close that was written for the old, non-Tangram system works too - because previously, the only option was to follow Perl references, but we've made sure they all get lazy loaded. </p><p> <strong>Where Object Persistence Wins</strong> </p><dl> <dt> <em>RAD-developed, and imported models</em></dt> <dd>In the RAD case, the model for your program is developed with a tool; the relational mapping is then derived by mutating the generated model.<br> In the imported case, it comes from the metamodel of an another module, such as <tt>Class::Tangram</tt> or <tt>Class::Meta</tt>.<br> In both of these cases, a general form of translation is "all that is required" - write a few rules about how to convert from one metamodel to another, and you have automatic Object Persistence. Sadly this "all that is required" part can get quite difficult to understand and debug.</dd> <dt> <em>retro-fitting storage around existing objects</em></dt> <dd>This works out best when you have code that already stores via something like <tt>Storable</tt>, and hasn't been written relationally in the first place, just like Fink.</dd> </dl><p>Yes, I know this is another absurdly long post in a multipart series. That's actually mostly in this case because I have more to say about it, rather than being a particular endorsement of the approach. But more on what I <em>will</em> endorse in the next part. </p><p>Footnotes: </p><ol> <li>Yes, I know there is a widely circulating school of thought saying "that's not The Right Way&#8482; to do object-relational mapping, you should be using object values as <em>columns</em> and tuples as <em>object relations</em>". The former isn't available in current databases, and the latter is done using classes that consist only of foreign keys (<tt>Tangram::Type::*::FromOne</tt> relations).</li> </ol> mugwumpjism 2006-08-21T22:13:06+00:00 yapce http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/30698?from=rss <p>After the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACID">ACID</a> revolution of the 1960s, Relational Database Design was the next big thing during the late 60's and 70's. It marked an evolutionary step forward from the Heirarchical models of early ACID conformant systems; for after all, it <em>included</em> the heirarchical model, as any heirarchy can be expressed as relations&#185;, yet <em>transcended</em> it by expressing structures that didn't fit heirarchies. </p><p>And it has some solid theory behind it as well - the relational model has strong roots in mathematics and logic, and so you can expect that University-goers will be poring over it with a bit more scrutiny and peer review than your average <tt>use.perl.org</tt> columnist. </p><p>Through all this, we have a decent set of experience for looking at data management problems through the goggles of the Relational Model, of which modern Relational Database Management Systems (RDBMS's) provide a reasonable approximation&#178;. We have built it up logically with key concepts such as <em>constraints</em>, <em>sequences</em>, <em>triggers</em>, <em>joins</em>, <em>views</em>, <em>cursors</em>, etc, and well-known performance hacks such as <em>indices</em>, <em>partitioning</em> or <em>materialized views</em>. And this logical layering is what allows us to build complex RDBMS's and database applications that do not violate the strict requirements of ACID. Well, some of us, some of the time. I won't say it's easy to do it without making mistakes. </p><p>We have a set of rules that let you decide whether data in the model is <em>normalized</em> - that is, it is not duplicated or aggregating any other information in the database, or <em>de-normalized</em>. We should be able to look at a table, and decide whether that <tt>auto_increment</tt> primary ID key is actually a normalized and valid member of the model (such as a customer or invoice number), or whether it is just a surrogate ID thrown on the row so that the programmer doesn't have to guess whether <tt>table.id</tt> exists or not, that does not actually <em>mean</em> anything in terms of the data model. </p><p>We have a graphical language of notation, called <em>crowfoot diagrams</em> (<a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/img/crowfoot.png">example</a>). And this is a very good common language. </p><p>We even have Relational abuses such as <em>stored procedures</em> and <tt>NULL</tt> values&#178;. </p><p>But we want a common language for writing Perl components, not just how for talking to DBAs or writing database schema. We cannot write entire applications in SQL. And nor do we want to. </p><p> <strong>What defines "Database Abstraction"?</strong> </p><p>For the heritage for this term, we can look to Dave Rolsky's <a href="http://poop.sourceforge.net/">POOP Comparison</a> document. POOP stands for <b>P</b>erl <b>O</b>bject-<b>o</b>riented <b>P</b>ersistence, and stands out as one of the worst acronyms for a user group ever. </p><p>So, "Database Abstraction" is my own refactoring of the term "RDBMS/OO Mapper" from the above document. Modules such as <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBIx-Class"> <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> </a> and Dave's <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Alzabo">Alzabo</a> clearly fit into this category. </p><p>Allow me to hazard some key characteristics of modules strictly in this category; </p><ol> <li>they (in principle) do not have particular requirements on table layout, such as surrogate IDs or type indicators</li> <li>they do not try to represent or provide concepts not described by orthodox relational model literature, such as inheritance</li> </ol><p>Perhaps I'll think of some others as time progresses; I'll try to add them here if I do. </p><p> <strong>What's so cool about DBIx::Class</strong> </p><p>In a nutshell, it does the Database Abstraction part very well, with a clean modular implementation via <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-C3/"> <tt>Class::C3</tt> </a>. Which isn't quite as chic as <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose"> <tt>Moose</tt> </a>, but close enough that it's probably not worth re-writing <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> in the near future. It has active maintainers, it has releases, it has users, it has mailing lists and IRC and all those other indicators of projects which are "succeeding". </p><p>One thing I particularly like about its API is <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBIx-Class/lib/DBIx/Class/ResultSet.pm"> <tt>DBIx::Class::ResultSet</tt> </a>. In particular, the way that you don't get <em>tables</em> from your schema, you get <em>result sets</em> that happen to be for <em>all</em> objects. What's more, they don't actually run the query until you use them, which makes for easy piecely building of simplish queries. </p><p> <strong>Driving the Perl Objects from the Database Schema</strong> </p><p>One of the most popular <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> extensions, which I also think is pretty nifty, is <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBIx-Class-Schema-Loader/"> <tt>DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader</tt> </a>. This actually connects to a database, uses DBI's various interfaces for querying the table structure in about as DB agnostic a way as you could imagine a tool of its class doing, and then calls the relevant <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> hooks to create classes which are a reasonable representation of what it found in the database. </p><p>For those people who are adamant that best practices be strictly followed, and normalization guidelines honoured, this works very well - and it sure is a delight when you have an application with a database clean enough for this to work without tweaking the schema. Then again, those developing applications from scratch might prefer writing in <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> directly. </p><p> <strong>What's the model of your model?</strong> </p><p>In all of the above scenarios, but particularly with the <tt>Loader</tt>, the <em>model</em> (ie, schema) of your database has a <em>meta-model</em> (ie, governing schema form). It is a very close relative of the Data Definition Language, DDL - <tt>CREATE TABLE</tt> statements and so-on that tell the database what to do. And that is perhaps key to the success of <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> and perhaps all other modules that work like this - they piggy back on the success of the relational model. </p><p>It should be noted that the <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> meta-model is currently <em>implicit</em>; there is, for instance, a <tt>DBIx::Class::Schema</tt> module that lets you create objects for a model, but they just go ahead and make the classes immediately rather than a separate step. The closest thing I could find to a pure set of data structures that represent the schema was probably <tt>DBIx::Class::Schema::Base</tt>, but even that had the "side effect" of compiling the classes into Perl as the schema is constructed. </p><p>But that's not necessarily a harsh critique of a real problem. As an exercise, and for a RAD (Rapid Application Development) tool I was writing at the time to procrastinate from building a real application for a VC project, I developed a set of modules for Tangram called <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/T2">T2</a> that described the Tangram meta-model using the <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-Tangram">Class::Tangram</a> meta-model. I later found myself wanting to do the same thing to <tt>Class::Tangram</tt> itself - that is, have <tt>Class::Tangram</tt> re-entrantly be its own meta-model. Other people have tried this sort of thing, too - Kurt Stephen's UMMF, David Wheeler's Class::Meta, etc. Metamodelling really amounts to the data modeller's equivalent of navel gazing - ie fruitful but only with good practice and a clear mind. I admire Stevan Little's accomplishment with <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-MOP">Class::MOP</a> in this regard, which is why I didn't cut my Moose talk. </p><p>But I digress. Why don't I summarise the usage scenarios where I think the <em>Database Abstraction</em> approach really wins. </p><p> <strong>Summary - Where Database Abstraction Wins</strong> </p><p>There we go, large heading and everything. I have observed Database Abstraction to be effective, both in my own practice but more in others, in two situations: </p><dl> <dt> <em>Well designed</em> models</dt> <dd> If the information has been modelled well using classical set theory notions, and those notions are adequate for the task at hand and little denormalization present in the data, then any approach that ends up getting to <tt>DBIx::Class</tt> classes will work well. </dd><dt> <em>retro-fitting</em> existing models</dt> <dd> The <tt>DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader</tt> wins here. You already have a set of tables, you've defined your foreign keys properly using constraints and what-not, and it's not just a bunch of integer id keyed data dumping grounds, so just go ahead and load it all using a set of clearly-defined conventions. </dd></dl><p>Right, time to collect a free meal for my delayed flight, then I'll have a crack at part 2. </p><p>Footnotes: </p><ol> <li>Yes, querying heirarchies in SQL sucks and usually relies on vendor-specific extensions which are inflexible and not portable. We will get to this a bit more in part 2 hopefully.</li> <li>Insert long rant about <tt>NULL</tt> values and duplicate rows here.</li> </ol> mugwumpjism 2006-08-19T16:53:14+00:00 yapce http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/30697?from=rss <p>Well, here I am sitting at one of the handy power and internet outlets in Changli Airport in Singapore, hoping the paranoia caused by missing an international flight the last time I lost track of time sitting here will prevent the same from happening again. Checking in to the transit check-in desk, they informed me of a slight delay in my outgoing flight to Amsterdam, of the order of 5-7 hours. So, I've got another all-nighter to pull through - I wonder if I'll be ID'd at 4am by any assault rifle clad security staff this time around. On the bright side, that means I should be taking off between 8am and 10am in my home time zone. So, if I sleep deprive myself now I'll hopefully get some sleep on the 10+ hour leg over the continent, and also hopefully not miss a boarding call for my delayed flight being brought forward. Fun, fun, fun. </p><p>What better thing to do when sleep deprived but write talks, or in this case, the second set of rants I'm passing off as substitutes for my withdrawn YAPC talks. This second talk I really hated withdrawing; but sadly, I had some crazy things happen to me in the 11th hour of preparation, and when you're a hard core procrastinator like me, that can really throw a spanner in the works because that last hour is where most of the work gets done. So, I'll put the material and 'argument' here, and hopefully still be in the position to turn it into a good talk with slides and examples for the Australasian Perl conference in December (OSDC). Much, much kudos to my employer, <a href="http://www.catalyst.net.nz/">Catalyst IT</a>, for sending me to speak at such an insane number of <em>international</em> conferences this year (OSDC will be my third). </p><p>In case anyone missed it, this was the advertised talk topic: </p><p> <strong>Database - Slave or Master? DBIC vs Tangram</strong> </p><p> <em>Whilst the DBI may be an excellent provide of database driver independence, just about every programmer who starts using the DBI ends up either building their own abstractions to its interface, or using somebody else's. As a result there are a multitude of modules in this space with significant overlap in functionality.</em> </p><p> <em>This talk compares two major categories of database management libraries - "Database Abstration" (DDL driven) and "Object Persistence" (metaclass driven). </em> <tt> <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBIx-Class/">DBIx::Class</a> </tt> <em> (a module with some design roots in </em> <tt>Class::DBI</tt> <em>) and </em> <tt> <a href="http://tangram.utsl.gen.nz/">Tangram</a> </tt> <em> (a prevayler-style persistence system) are examined as mature examples of each of these styles of access.</em> </p><p>The plan at this point is to break it into three logical chunks - in the first part, I will put across my thoughts about the traditional approach of Database Abstraction used by DBIx::Class and other modules, where the database is considered to be the centre of the information. If nothing else, that should help clarify things like terminology and make sure that readers of the later parts are on the same page as me. In the second part, I will discuss the alternate approach used by Tangram, as well as its key advantages and failings. In the third part I will outline how I see this schism can be closed without losing the benefits of either or having to rebuild your applications from scratch (again). </p><p>Let the rambling begin.</p> mugwumpjism 2006-08-19T14:55:22+00:00 yapce http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/30616?from=rss <p>With the shining review of <tt>git</tt> just posted, it seems there would be little ground left for other tools to show distinction. </p><p>However I respect and admire <a href="http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/FrontPage">darcs</a> on several grounds, and there are still clear and useful development interactions for which <tt>darcs</tt> has an advantage over all current <tt>git</tt> porcelain&#185;. </p><p> <strong>It's also properly distributed</strong> </p><p>Firstly, it should be noted that almost all of the distributed development advantages of <tt>git</tt> also apply to <tt>darcs</tt>. <tt>darcs</tt> also uses a single directory for its repository, so '<tt>grep -r</tt>' is ok from sub-directories, and like <tt>git</tt>, it keeps these repositories with the checkouts so you can freely move and copy your checkout directories without worrying about using special commands or updating some mapping file in an obscure location in your dotfiles. </p><p> <tt>darcs</tt> has not been scaled to massive projects, instead focusing on smaller ones (say, a few thousand commits), where the extra functionality is considered more important than speed. That being said, in fact you'll see in newer <tt>darcs</tt> repositories the first traces of content hashing, which have made drastic improvements - and could eventually render <tt>git</tt>'s performance edge marginal. </p><p> <strong>The (in)famous Patch Calculus</strong> </p><p>Patch Calculus has to be one of the most frighteningly named terms used in revision control systems today. It screams "Maths to University Level required to understand". </p><p>But let's throw away the awful term and describe it in plain Geek. Basically it's all about ways of determining, from a set of possibly unrelated patches, which extra patches are required for any given "cherry pick". I much prefer terms like <em>Patch Dependency</em> to refer to this set of concepts. Even <tt>darcs</tt>' term <em>patch commuting</em> could be better called <em>patch re-ordering</em>. </p><p>The theory goes like this. If you are trying to get a specific change from a tree, then quickly work out by examining the history which other changes are required first, and so add all of those patches to your tree. </p><p>The general finding from this technology is that it is useful, but it opens a big can of worms. In essence, the version control system is tracking not only the history that you recorded, but also all the different paths through the patches you have made that history might have successfully progressed. And on any code base, simple metrics such as "does this patch apply cleanly" cannot be relied upon to verify whether or not two changes are actually interdependant. </p><p>So, what some developers do is manually mark which patches are predecessors to the next patch that they make. Even more enlightended developers use metrics such as whether or not the changed code still compiles successfully or even passes the regression test suite to consider changes dependant. </p><p>Whether patch dependency works or not in practice depends on whether or not developers create commits of a high enough standard that they co-operate with this feature. </p><p> <strong>Interactive Commit</strong> </p><p>I didn't talk about this much in the SVK section despite SVK having this feature, mainly because <tt>darcs</tt> is where the feature came from in the first place. </p><p>Basically, the way it works is when you <tt>record</tt> changes, you are presented with a summary of the changes, then asked to group each change, <em>hunk by hunk</em> into bundles which are darcs patches. </p><p>This is largely how it is possible for the patch calculus to work so well - if changes to a single file are combined into a single commit as so frequently happens with file-grained <tt>commit</tt> in other VCS, it entwines the two features being worked on to be co-dependant. The better the tool is at keeping changes small and tidy, the better - but if they are too small, the reverse happens - every feature is considered to be its own independant change. </p><p> <strong>&#185; - And now darcs is a <tt>git</tt> porcelain, too</strong> </p><p>With the arrival on the scene of <a href="http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/DarcsGit"> <tt>darcs-git</tt> </a>, a <tt>git</tt> porcelain with the UI of <tt>darcs</tt>, I have access to the interactive commit interface of <tt>darcs</tt> already. </p><p>I don't miss patch dependency, because it is easily - and I would add, less confusingly - performed with <tt>git</tt> using topic branches (making a new branch for each new feature or stream of development), and the powerful tools of rebasing and cherry picking.</p> mugwumpjism 2006-08-14T06:48:04+00:00 yapce http://use.perl.org/~mugwumpjism/journal/30615?from=rss <p>It is clear that the earlier posts in this series are light on details and teasers, whereas this post goes into much detail on each new feature. For this bias I offer no apology. There is no mistaking that within the period of one year, I have gone from being an outspoken SVK advocate to extolling the virtues of the content filesystem, <tt>git</tt>. And I am not alone. </p><p> <strong>Content Addressible Filesystem</strong> </p><p>There are many good reasons that super-massive projects like the Linux Kernel, XFree86, Mozilla, Gentoo, etc are switching to <tt>git</tt>. This is not just a short term fad, <tt>git</tt> brings a genuinely new (well, stolen from <tt>monotone</tt>) concept to the table - that of the <em>content addressable filesystem</em>. </p><p>In this model, files, trees of files, and revisions are all hashed with a specially pre-seeded SHA1 to yield <em>object identifiers</em>, that uniquely identify (to the strength of the hashing algorithm) the type and contents of the object. The full ramifications of this take some time to realise, but include more efficient delta compression&#185;, algorithmically faster merging, less error prone file history detection&#178;, but chiefly, much better identification of revisions. All of a sudden, it does not matter which repository a revision comes from - if the SHA1 object ID matches, <em>you have the same object</em>, so the system naturally distributes <em>by model</em>, with no requirement for URIs or surrogate repository UUIDs and revision numbers. </p><p>Being content-keyed also means you are naturally transaction-safe. In terms of the core repository, you are only ever adding new objects. So, if two processes try to write to the same file, this will succeed because it means that they are writing the same contents. </p><p>It also makes cryptography and authentication easy - you can sign an <em>entire project and its revision history</em> just by signing text including a commit ID. And if you recompute the object identifiers using a stronger hash, you have a stronger guarantee. </p><p> <strong>The matter of speed</strong> </p><p>The design of the <tt>git-core</tt> implementation is very OS efficient. People might scoff at this as a key feature, but consider this performance comparison; </p><p> <b>SVK:</b> </p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>wilber:~/src/git$ time svk sync -t 11111<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/pugs/openfoundry<br>Syncing http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs<br>Retrieving log information from 1 to 11111<br>Committed revision 2 from revision 1.<br>Committed revision 3 from revision 2.<br>Committed revision 4 from revision 3.<br>&nbsp; [...]<br>Committed revision 11110 from revision 11109.<br>Committed revision 11111 from revision 11110.<br>Committed revision 11112 from revision 11111.<br> <br>real&nbsp; &nbsp; 227m36.096s<br>user&nbsp; &nbsp; 3m47.281s<br>sys&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;5m0.577s</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>That's 13,656 seconds to mirror 11,111 revisions. </p><p>Compare that to <b> <tt>git</tt><nobr> <wbr></nobr></b>:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>wilber:~/src$ time git-clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git git.git<br>Checking files out...<br> 100% (688/688) done<br> <br>real&nbsp; &nbsp; 1m54.932s<br>user&nbsp; &nbsp; 0m2.825s<br>sys&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0m0.468s</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>That was 115 seconds to mirror 6,511 revisions. The key bottleneck was the network - which was saturated for almost all of the execution time of the command, not a laborious, revision by revision dialogue due to a server protocol that just didn't seem to think that people might want to copy entire repositories&#179;. The server protocol simply exchanged a few object IDs, then using the <em>merge base algorithm</em> to figure out which new objects are required, it generated a delta-compressed pack that just gives you the new objects you need. So, <tt>git</tt> does not suffer from high latency networks in the same way that <tt>SVN::Mirror</tt> does. </p><p>But it's not just the server protocol which is orders of magnitude faster. Git commands overall execute in incredibly short periods of time. The reason for this speed isn't (just) because "it's written in C". It's mainly due to the programming style - files are used as <em>iterators</em>, and <em>iterator functions</em> are combined together by way of <em>process pipelines</em>. As the computations for these iterator functions are all completely independent, they naturally distribute the processing, and UNIX with its pipe buffers was always designed to make mincemeat of this kind of highly parallel processing task. </p><p>There is a lot to be learnt from this style of programming; generally the habit has been to try to avoid using unnecessary IPC in programs in order to make best use of traditional straight line CPU performance, where task switching is a penalty. Combining iterative programming with real operating system filehandles can bring the potential of this speed enhancement to adequately built iterative programs. I expect it will only be a matter of time before someone will produce a module for Perl 6 that will automatically auto-thread many iterative programs to use this trick. Perhaps one day, it will even be automatic. </p><p>But that aside, we have yet to touch on some of the further ramifications of the content filesystem. </p><p> <strong>Branching is more natural</strong> </p><p>Branches are much more natural - instead of telling the repository ahead of time when you are branching, you simply commit. Your commit can never be invalid (there is no "transaction out of date" error) - if you commit in a different way to somebody else, then you have just branched the development. </p><p>Branches are therefore <em>observed</em>, not <em>declared</em>. This is an important distinction, but is actually nothing new - it is the <em>paradigm shift</em> that was so loudly touted by those <tt>arch</tt> folk who irritatingly kept suggesting that systems like CVS were fundamentally flawed. Beneath the bile of their arguments, there was a key point of decentralisation that was entirely missed by the Subversion design. Most of the new version control systems out there - bazaar-NG, mercurial, codeville, etc have this property. </p><p>Also, the repository itself is normally kept alongside the checkout, in a single directory at the top called<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.git</tt> (or wherever you point the magic environment variable <tt>GIT_DIR</tt> at - so you can get your 'spotless' checkouts, if you need them). As the files are saved in the repository compressed via gzip and/or delta compressed into a pack file, with filenames that are essentially SHA1 hashes, the '<tt>grep -r</tt>' problem that Subversion and CVS suffered from is gone. </p><p>It means that you can explain that to make a branch, you can just copy the entire checkout+repository:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> $ cp -r myproject myproject.test</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Not only that, but you can combine repositories back together just by copying their objects directories over each other.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> $ cp -ru myproject.test/.git/objects myproject/.git/<br> $ git-fsck-objects<br> dangling commit deadbeef...<br> $ git-update-ref refs/heads/test deadbeef</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Now, that's crude and illustrative only, but these sorts of characteristics make repository hacks more accessible. Normally you would just <tt>fetch</tt> those revisions:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt> $ git-fetch<nobr> <wbr></nobr>../myproject.test test:refs/heads/test</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p> <strong>Merges are truly merges</strong> </p><p>Unlike in Subversion, the repository itself tracks key information about merges. When you use `<tt>svn merge</tt>', you are actually copying changes from one place in the repository to another. Git does support this, but calls it "pulling" changes from one branch to another. The difference is that a merge (by default) creates a special type of commit - a <em>merge commit</em> that has two parents (a "parent" is just a SHA1 identifier to the previous commit). Thus, the two branches are truly converged, and if the maintainer of the other branch then pulls from the merged branch, they're not just identical - they <em>are</em> the same branch. <em>Merge base calculations</em> can just look at two commit structures, and find the earliest commits that the two branches have in common. </p><p>To compare the model of branching and merging to databases and transactional models, the Subversion model is like auto-commit, whereas distributed SCM such as <tt>git</tt> provides is akin to transactions, with the diverged branch's commits being like SQL savepoints, and merges being like full "commit" points. </p><p> <strong>"Best of" merging - cherry picking</strong> </p><p>There is also the concept of piecemeal merging via <em>cherry picking</em>. One by one, you can pluck out individual changes that you want instead of just merging in all of the changes from the other branch. If you later pull the entire branch, the commits which were cherry picked are easily spotted by matching commit IDs, and do not need to be merged again. </p><p> <strong>The plethora of tools</strong> </p><p>Another name for <tt>git</tt> is the <em>Stupid</em> content tracker. This is reference to the fact that the <tt>git-core</tt> tools are really just a set of the small "iterator functions" that allow you to build 'real' SCMs atop of it. So, instead of using the <tt>git-core</tt> - the "plumbing" - directly, you will probably be using a "porcelain" such as <a href="http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/Cogito">Cogito</a>, <a href="http://www.cyd.liu.se/~freku045/gct/">(h)gct</a>, <a href="http://digilander.libero.it/mcostalba/">QGit</a>, <a href="http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/DarcsGit">Darcs-Git</a>, <a href="http://www.procode.org/stgit/">Stacked Git</a>, <a href="http://www.isisetup.ch/">IsiSetup</a>, etc. Instead of using <tt>git-log</tt> to view revision history, you'll crank up <a href="http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/Gitk">Gitk</a>, <a href="http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitView">GitView</a> or the curses-based <a href="http://jonas.nitro.dk/tig/">tig</a>. </p><p>The <a href="http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools">huge list of tools</a> which interface with <tt>git</tt> already are a product of the massive following that it has received in its very short lifetime. </p><p> <strong>The matter of scaling</strong> </p><p>The scalability of <tt>git</tt> can be grasped by browsing the many Linux trees visible on <a href="http://kernel.org/git/">http://kernel.org/git/</a>. In fact, if you were to combine all of the trees on <tt>kernel.org</tt> into one <tt>git</tt> repository, you would measure that the project as a whole has anywhere between 1,000 and 4,000 commits every month. <a href="http://members.cox.net/junkio/200607-ols.pdf">Junio's OLS <tt>git</tt> presentation</a> contains this and more. </p><p>In fact, for a laugh, I tried this out. First, I cloned the mainstream <tt>linux-2.6</tt> tree. This took about 35 minutes to download the 140MB or so of packfile. Then I went through the list of trees, and used '<tt>git fetch</tt>' to copy all extra revisions in those trees into the same repository. It worked, taking between a second and 8 minutes for each additional branch - and while I write this, it has happily downloaded over 200 heads so far - leaving me with a repository with over 40,000 revisions that packs down to only 200MB. (<b>Update:</b> Chris Wedgwood writes that he has a revision history of the Linux kernel dating all the way back to 2.4.0, with almost 97,000 commits, which is only 380MB) </p><p>Frequently, scalability is reached through distribution of bottlenecks, and if the design of the system itself elimates bottlenecks, there is much less scope for overloaded central servers like Debian's <tt>alioth</tt> or the OSSF's <tt>svn.openfoundry.org</tt> to slow you down. While Subversion and SVK support "Star" and "Tree" (or heirarchical) developer team patterns, systems such as <tt>git</tt> can truly, both in principle and practice, be said to support <em>meshes</em> of development teams. And this is always going to be more scalable. </p><p> <strong>Revising patches, and uncommit</strong> </p><p>The ability to undo, and thus completely forget commits is sometimes scorned at, as if it were "wrong" - that version control systems Should Not support such a bad practice, and therefore that having no way to support it is not a flaw, but a feature. "Just revert", they will say, and demand to know why you would ever want such a hackish feature as <tt>uncommit</tt>. </p><p>There is a point to their argument - if you publish a revision then subsequently withdraw that revision from the history without explicitly reverting it, people who are tracking your repository may also have to remove those revisions from their branches before applying your changes. </p><p>However, this is not an unsurmountable problem when your revision numbers uniquely and unmistakably identify their history - and when you are working on a set of patches for later submission, it is actually what you want. In the name of hubris, you only care to share the changes once you've made them each able to withstand the hoards of the Linux Kernel Mailing List reviewers (or wherever you are sending your changes, even to an upstream Subversion repository via <tt>git-svn</tt>). </p><p>In fact, the success of Linux kernel development can also be attributed in part to its approach of only committing to the mainline kernel, patches that have been reviewed and tested in other trees, don't break the compile or add temporary bugs, etc. As they are refined, the changes themselves are modified before they are eventually cleared for inclusion in the mainline kernel. This stringent policy allows them to do things such as <em>bisect</em> revisions to perform a binary search between two starting points to locate the exact patch that caused a bug. </p><p>Before <tt>git</tt> arrived, there were tools such as <a href="http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/quilt">Quilt</a> that managed the use case of revising patches, but they were not integrated with the source control management system. These days, <a href="http://www.spearce.org/category/projects/scm/pg/">Patchy Git</a> and <a href="http://www.procode.org/stgit/">Stacked Git</a> layer this atop of <tt>git</tt> itself, using a technique that amounts to being commit reversal. In fact, the reversed commits still exist - it's just nothing refers to them - they can still be seen by <tt>git-fsck-objects</tt> before the next time the maintenance command <tt>git-prune</tt> is run. </p><p>So, Stacked Git has a command called <tt>uncommit</tt> that takes a commit from the head and moves it to your patch stack, <tt>refresh</tt> to update the current patch once it has been suitably revised, a pair of commands <tt>push</tt> and <tt>pop</tt> to wind the patch stack, a <tt>pick</tt> command to pluck individual patches from another branch, and a <tt>pull</tt> command that picks entire stacks of patches, which is called "rebasing" the patch series. And of course, being a porcelain only, you can mix and match the use of <tt>stgit</tt> with other <tt>git</tt> porcelain. </p><p>Far from being "so 20th century", patches are a clean way to represent proposed changes to a code base that have stood the test of time - and a practice of reviewing and revising patches encourages debate of the implementation and makes for a tidier and more tracable project history. </p><p>The polar opposite to reviewing every patch - a single head that anyone can commit to - is more like a Wiki, and an open-commit policy Subversion server suits this style of colloboration well enough. There is no "better" or "more modern" between these two choices of development styles - each will suit certain people and projects better than others. </p><p>Of course, those tools that made distributed development a key tenet of their design make the distributed pattern more natural, and yet it is just as easy for them to support the Wiki-style development pattern of Subversion. </p><p>In fact there are no use cases for which I can recommend Subversion over <tt>git</tt> any more. In my opinion, those that attack it on the grounds of "simplicity" (usually on the topic of the long, though able to be abbreviated, revision numbers) have not grasped the beauty of the <a href="http://utsl.gen.nz/img/git-model.png">core model</a> of <tt>git</tt>. </p><p>Footnotes: </p><p>Many people, especially those with time, effort and ego invested in their own VCS, judged the features of <tt>git</tt> in very early days. Without being able to see where it would be today, they each gave excuses as to why this new VCS <tt>git</tt> offered their users less functionality. So, a lot of FUD exists, a few points of which I address here. </p><ol> <li>git <em>does</em> do delta compression to save space (as a separate step)</li> <li>git <em>can</em> track renames of files, though it does not record this in the meta-data, and pragmatically the observation is that this is, overall speaking, just as good, if not better, than tracking them with meta-data.</li> <li>git <em>is not</em> forced to hold the entire project history, it is quite possible to have partial repositories using <em>grafts</em>, though this feature is still relatively new and initial check-outs cannot easily be made grafts. Patches welcome<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>;-)</tt>.</li> </ol> mugwumpjism 2006-08-14T06:33:09+00:00 yapce