Saturday April 02, 2005
Brian Ingerson at YAPC::Taipei
Last year he gave away JAPH t-shirts. This year,
pink and blue IGNY ones, G for GNU? See slides at
What's the KISS principle? No, it's Kwiki Is
Spoon + Spork. So one of the lines is, Only gugod
truly understands Ingy's KISS.
gugod's Spork::S5, (http://svn.freepan.org/gugod)
is Spork on steroids.
The talk was, Kwiki, the Ritalin and Everything.
It seemed he wanted to look within and explain
why he was different. What did he say about
Autrijus, Ritalin and himself? Autrijus
suggested he take some Ritalin? He suggested
Autrijus take some Ritalin? He took some of
Autrijus' Ritalin. Autrijus asked him if he was
The second slide was of 'Republican rocker' Ted
who played at the first rock show he ever went to
at the age of 16 in high school.
The third one was of Barry Manilow
Barry_Manilow), who they apparently beat up. But
the song, Mandy, was a good song, I think.
So Kwiki Sucks Rocks, but to get back to
self-analysis, he said he was a slow typist. I
can't remember him saying it at the talk, but on
the slide he says he is easily distracted. On
the other hand, one of his strengths is strong
legs, and sticking to a theme. Being easily
distracted seems the opposite of sticking to a
theme, but perhaps being distracted happens from
moment to moment, and sticking to a theme
happens over long periods. I think he was
referring to his work with perl.
Reinventing everything was both a strength and a
Anyway he likes Kwiki, because it social and
distributive. And life is a video game, the only
way out of which is to hack, hack, hack,
On the Six, Drugs and Larry Wall slide, he says
he has ADD. A different explanation of
his unconventionality might be the influences on
him like Nugent and Wall.
In a recent p6-l message, Larry Wall says an
important part of his psychology was being
subjected to a lot of 'I'm not offended by what
you do, but others might be, so don't do it'
teaching, in other words, Be Conventional, which
he had to work through. Ingy captures this Larry
He also needed an acoustic guitar, and apparently
was going to sing at the end of the conference,
but was prevented by Autrijus going overtime on
his perl6 introduction.
On the weekend at the conference at the
backpackers hostel I was at there was a terrible
Hugh Grant movie on TV where the kid wants to get
through to his mother by singing at a school
event, Killing Me Softly with Your Song, but the
other kids start making fun of his bad singing,
so Hugh Grant saves the kid by coming out with
his guitar and helping the kid sing the song, and
give us a happy ending.
Just sing the stupid song, stupid kid! They're
making fun of you is part of the deal, I was
So, the fact we DIDN'T get to be embarrassed by
Ingy taking his clothes off and doing Ted Nugent
impressions was funny.
He is also apparently working on Cog with Ward
Cunningham, sort of like Kwiki from a shell. It
appears to be somewhere in between vaporware and
Back to ADD, just as Autrijus was starting his
2-hour intro to Perl6 and releasing
pugs-6.0.13 at the same time, ingy wanted him to
install a new Spork::S5Theme. Autrijus
installed it, but immediately uninstalled it.
Perhaps he didn't like the pug picture.
I wonder why Ingy was doing this. Was he offering
Autrijus another hoop to keep in the air? Did he
think the pug picture was important for the
presentation? Was this ADD in action?
presentation was about FreePAN, also among the
slides at http://yapc. elixus.org/slides.html. It
is like CPAN, but with subversion and all
revisions are available. It looks like it would
spread out from the Taiwan Academica Sinica's
I was interested in who he was competing with
with FreePAN. Afterwards, I tried to ask Leon
Brocard about the application of the ideas of his
talk about APIs into the Yahoo and Google search
engines to a CPAN shifting more of the load to
clients, but he didn't think they had much
Then I asked him how he would develop new CPAN.
He asked me what's wrong with h the old one. I
said handling perl6 and distributing 2 versions
of one module. I mentioned the problems with
modperl 2. He and Sam Vilain didn't have much
good to say about modperl 2.
Anyway, Ingy seems to be firmly on the subversion
and svk bandwagon. Although there may be
something on the slides about Kwid, he didn't
talk about it at the conference, I think. He and
Sam Vilain are apparently working on Perldoc now,