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Wednesday March 30, 2005
10:08 AM

Tatsuhiko Miyagawa at YAPC::Taipei

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I asked him whether there were many ruby programmers in Japan, because Matsumoto is Japanese. This was ambiguously a question about either the number of ruby programmers in Japan, or the nationalism of Japanese programmers.

He answered yes, and added, perl is for cool uses, while php is for dummies, java is for companies, and ruby is ... for hackers.

At the conference he presented a number of web and blog hacks, some from his O'Reilly book, Blog Hacks, at present only available in Japanese.

But the ruby connection was in the first presentation. Apparently the source code search engine gonzui supported searching php, ruby and python code, but not perl, I guess because the only thing that parses perl is perl.

He used PPI to parse perl, but still had to hack parsing of method calls for example, by look-behind matching on '->'.

Integrating it into gonzui, a ruby program, required him to write his first code in ruby apparently.

http://bulknews.typepad.com/blog/2005/03/cpan_code_searc.html

His talk gave me the warm fuzzies. It's always good to see East Asians kick ass in the international arena. This was apparently his first perl presentation outside Japan. I imagine he must get practice presenting in English at Moveable Type, however.

Dan Kogai doesn't act like a Japanese, but Miyagawa did.

mjd last year in Taipei contrasted the East Asian style of presentation and audience participation with the Israeli type, where a successful presentation is measured by how many in the audience speak up to attack what you said.

At the conference, Miyagawa announce YAPC::Asia to be arranged by the Sibuya Perlmongers in Tokyo.

I hope they make it at least a 2-country tour so the programmers coming from the US and elsewhere can first come to Taipei for one weekend and then go to Tokyo for the next.

Participants in the Tamsui Hackathon here were in-country for almost a week and next year, perhaps they can come back to Taiwan for 3-4 days and then go to Japan for 3-4 days.
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