NOTE: use Perl; is on undef hiatus. You can read content, but you can't post it. More info will be forthcoming forthcomingly.
All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report
use Perl Log In
mpeters (5802)
mpeters
(email not shown publicly)
http://petersfamily.org/
AOL IM: michael00peters (Add Buddy, Send Message)
Technorati Profile [technorati.com]
(email not shown publicly)
http://petersfamily.org/
AOL IM: michael00peters (Add Buddy, Send Message)
Technorati Profile [technorati.com]
Thursday March 05, 2009
03:54 PM
eat your first cookie before asking for seconds
I like Gabor a lot and I think his work with Padre is really going to pay off in efforts to attract new blood to the Perl community, but I couldn't read the latest post on his blog without writing this response (he doesn't have comments on his blog, instead he encourages people to respond to him on their own blogs).
You should read his original post before continuing.
Asking TPF to fund 2 more grant ideas when you haven't even finished the last one they gave you is just asking to be rejected. It reminds me of my 5 year old asking for more cereal when he still has half his bowl left. I'm extremely unlikely to get up and get him some more.
I've been on the receiving end of the grant process and I know it's really hard to get motivated enough to finish those grants (the money doesn't help all that much). And in his case he admits to biting off a bit more than he can chew with the XS components. So I understand his desire to drop his current grant project.
But he should have done that prior to applying for more grants. And even then I wouldn't blame TPF for not accepting him for the next round if he didn't finish his last.
Like I said, Gabor is a great guy and really does good work, but I don't think he should see the rejection of his grants as a rejection of Padre by TPF. Instead look at it like they are good stewards watching over the Perl community's coffers and limited resources and being cautious with investments.
You should read his original post before continuing.
Asking TPF to fund 2 more grant ideas when you haven't even finished the last one they gave you is just asking to be rejected. It reminds me of my 5 year old asking for more cereal when he still has half his bowl left. I'm extremely unlikely to get up and get him some more.
I've been on the receiving end of the grant process and I know it's really hard to get motivated enough to finish those grants (the money doesn't help all that much). And in his case he admits to biting off a bit more than he can chew with the XS components. So I understand his desire to drop his current grant project.
But he should have done that prior to applying for more grants. And even then I wouldn't blame TPF for not accepting him for the next round if he didn't finish his last.
Like I said, Gabor is a great guy and really does good work, but I don't think he should see the rejection of his grants as a rejection of Padre by TPF. Instead look at it like they are good stewards watching over the Perl community's coffers and limited resources and being cautious with investments.
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
Full
Abbreviated
Hidden
Loading... please wait.
an endless discussion thread about what features to include.
-- Jarkko Hietaniemi
Stories, comments, journals, and other submissions on use Perl; are Copyright 1998-2006, their respective owners.
Forget TPF, get the userbase approval. (Score:2)
Gabor is a great guy doing a lot of good work, and the following comments are not directed solely at him. I've run into the same problem with several people.
There was a long discussion about this general problem at one of the Frozen Perl dinners. Many people try to solve it with "Can't you just..." guesses and suggestions about the distribution of the grant money and the accounting for it. They all fail to realize that no one cares about the money, and the money doesn't motivate anyome. Indeed, the money is
Re: (Score:2)