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Journal of luqui (5770)

Thursday November 10, 2005
03:21 PM

Today's Perl 6 Meeting Notes

[ #27534 ]

        - lots more stuff with PGE
        - sent out a message on Friday
        - now support for commit operator, Unicode characters (as far as Parrot
            can), hex, octal, newline, conjunctions, subrules with arguments,
            documented public interface
        - it helps that particle has created so many tests
        - so have the Tcl guys
        - beyond that, just catching up with Chip's draft design documents
        - going to do parser things next

        - working on the tree grammar stuff
        - have it checked into my local mirror
        - haven't merged it back into mainline yet
        - Parrot has some extraneous requirements on new files
        - converting some of my little test scripts to test files
        - I couldn't run tests until I added libraries into Parrot repository
        - Patrick, what's your advice on where to put the test files?
        - PGE keeps the test files in the Parrot hierarchy
        - for the language, I want the tests in the languages/ directory

        - PGE's tests went in the Parrot thing because of Dan's advice
        - PGE is a part of Parrot
        - I separated them out as p6rules tests
        - there are several different syntaxes to do pattern matching
        - Perl 5 rules, for example
        - in this case, if we consider TGE as a part of Parrot, then it goes in
            the Parrot repository
        - or sensibly a subdirectory in compilers/ subdirectory

        - I'll do that for now
        - it's not a big deal to move them later

        - some overhead with work and family
        - otherwise hanging out on p6l and p6c
        - thinking about design issues for roles and things
        - thinking about some of Patrick's regexp issues too
        - actually writing a few Perl 6 programs to see if it feels right
        - running into interesting Pugs bugs there
        - also playing with attribute grammar stuff and thinking about tree
            transformation syntax

        - did Autrijus send out the doc that he and Liz have started to put
            together about concurrency?

        - I didn't see it

        - I encouraged them to show it to people who've done stuff in Perl 5
        - then make it public
        - how's the response to licensing stuff been, Allison?

        - just a handful of responses
        - most questions were from the Perl 5 cabal about the amount of time
            required to turn in their agreements
        - they wanted more than a week
        - it'll be more like six months

        - it should last through at least a conference season for in person

        - I thought it looked clear and well-defined
        - I wish other open source licenses were as clear as this one

        - the only one that blew me away was Microsoft's clear and simple group of

        - I've been trying to recompile Pugs
        - I get a weird message from GHC about unrecognized "-i" flags
        - GHC 6.4.1
        - one of these years I'll have to start submitting some tests myself

        - have you been submitting bug reports?

        - I mentioned one on the list
        - I don't know what my commit procedure would be
        - I haven't taken anyone up on a commit bit

        - I can make sure that you get relevant documentation
        - that'll make the Pugs crowd very happy

        - I'm still eager for S05 to show up

        - Damian had taken that for comments?

          - yes
        - I'm getting enough questions from people that it'd be nice to have a
            document point to

        - is there any reason not to put a big warning on top of the last draft
            and check it in?

        - I have no problem with that
        - the only thing that may change is the whitespace flags
        - we can put a notice around that
        - other than that, it looked good

        - anything new is good

        - Damian has the latest draft

        - what's the status of the S29 draft?

        - there's one in the Pugs repository
        - I could review it and pass it around

        - at some point we should do it

        - I'll ask the Pugs folks about it
        - we can look at it

        - they have a couple of Synopses there waiting for approval
        - Autrijus, Jarkko, and Jos have started an updated CPAN synopsis

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