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Journal of jonasbn (1153)

Saturday June 21, 2003
08:06 AM

A Blog Block?

[ #12982 ]

I have thought a lot about one of the problems of blogging and
journalling (I will refer to it as blogging from now on).

I read a few blogs/journals (I will refer to these as blogs for now on)
and some of them offer great advice, when you use google and other
search engines for some obscure combination of terms, often the results
are blogs.

I usually avoid the politicial/religious discussions, which sometimes
arise in relation to blog entries about such subjects. It is not that I
do not have opinions on these things, but I do not find the blog forum
the right forum to discuss these matters.

Even when meta-moderating here on use.perl I avoid these dicussions,
since they are mostly based on matters of opinion can there for go on
forever.

Saturday the 7th. I made a journal entry about my forthcoming trip to Cuba, simply to inform the readers of my journal (I
think there is at least one) that I would not be updating my journal
for the next week due to vacation.

A comment
was writting to this entry indicating reservation about Cuba and I
guess the social/political state in Cuba. I tried twice to write a
reponse to this, both times I discarded the response.

But I have really thought much about it though and I wanted to explain
to the commenter why I was going to Cuba, but it did not seeme possible
for me to do this without getting into a political discussion even
though the trip had no political agenda at all.

So now I have to decided to try to explain why I did not respond to the
comment, I do not consider this entry a response merely an explanation.

During my Cuba trip (on which a lot of my friends participated) we had
a lot of political dicussions and apart from being one of the best
vacations I have ever had - it was certainly also the most political.

Since politics and religion are based on ideology and/or belief. I do
not think that one is able to get anywhere with a discussion via a
forum like a blog on issues like those. At the same time english is
only my second language and I would not be able to argument in the same
manner as I would in danish. I would probably just piss people of.

So my rule of thumb is to walk a way from such discussions, no matter
how much I want to engage in these and to raise my opinion.

So these are the topics I am currently avoiding:

War in Iraq/Afghanistan

US foreign politics in general

Religion

Politics

These subjects are difficult to discuss even via fora better suited for
discussion, so apart from avoiding the subjects in blogs and commenting
in blogs. I also avoid these subjects in the following fora:

IRC

Email (unless I am writing with somebody very familiar to me)

NNTP

Diverse web-based fora

Maybe it is just me, but it has kept me from a lot of flames and I
think I have pretty straightforward relations to people whom I interact
with via the Internet.

I get my share of discussion off the Internet. I sometimes read these
dicussions, since they can be a great source for seeing things from a
different point of view, but that is as far as I go.

One thing that bothers me though is the Biedermeier like state of things,
which I am supporting by not involving myself.

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    • One thing that bothers me though is the Biedermeier like state of things,
      which I am supporting by not involving myself.

    I'm not familiar with this term "Biedermeier like". A quick google didn't clarify it for me.

    I hope it doesn't break your discussion rules, which I find very reasonable, to enlighten me on what this means.

    I have to agree. Blogs are a really bad forum for heated political and religious discussion. I try to refrain, but sometimes someone says something that I feel can't go unchallenge

    • I actually wanted to link to a definition, but I was unable to find a proper one, instead I found a lot of art listings etc.

      Here is a definition from a interior decoration site [about.com]:

      Many assume that Biedermeier is the name of a celebrated cabinetmaker of the time, but the name is more commonly attributed to a satirical cartoon popular in early 19th century Europe. The cartoon characters of the Biedermeier family symbolized the rich indolent German bourgeois of the day. They were depicted as fat, o

      • I guess this explains why all my Google references seemed to be to furniture.

        In the US, they might call that Ozzie & Harriet-like, after the '50s TV show that showed an idealized family where there was never really any real conflict or problems.

        There's something about arguing over the Internet that's so unproductive. People who have spent time on Usenet know this. Perhaps without a give and take that includes human faces and body language that the 'opponent' becomes dehumanized and positions are pol

        • Thanks for the briefing on the american term, I am not sure Biedermeier is used as a common term any where (perhaps on the art schools of Vienna?), but I often use it - maybe I need to find another term.

          About your description of f2f dicussion vs. TCP/IP based discussion - I agree with what you outline.