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Friday October 20, 2006
06:13 PM

Why I will never use Module::Install

[ #31372 ]
This is in no way a dig on Plagger, its authors or even the Module::Install people either....but crap like this is why I will never use Module::Install. A simple perl Makefile.PL should not induce this kind of instanity.... This isn't even all of it...just the scrollback that filled the buffer...

- Test::Pod                    ...missing.
- Test::Pod::Coverage          ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Cookie sharing with Firefox]
- HTTP::Cookies::Mozilla       ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Liberal XML parsing]
- XML::Liberal                 ...missing. (would need 0.14)
- XML::RSS::Liberal            ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[XPath support in Subscription and Feed Upgrader]
- HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath     ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Better html to text formatter]
- HTML::TreeBuilder            ...missing.
- HTML::FormatText             ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Bundle::Planet]
[Filter::HTMLScrubber]
- HTML::Scrubber               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Publish::Feed]
- XML::Feed                    ...missing. (would need 0.09)
- XML::Atom                    ...missing. (would need 0.20)
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Publish::Gmail]
- Net::SMTP::TLS               ...missing.
- MIME::Lite                   ...missing.
- Mail::Address                ...loaded. (1.74)
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Publish::Planet]
- HTML::Scrubber               ...missing.
- File::Copy::Recursive        ...loaded. (0.28)
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Rule::Deduped]
- DB_File                      ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Rule::Fresh]
- Time::Duration::Parse        ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Subscription::Bloglines]
- WebService::Bloglines        ...missing. (would need 0.11)
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Subscription::OPML]
- XML::LibXML::SAX             ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [y]
[Aggregator::Xango]
- Cache::FastMmap              ...missing.
- POE::Component::Client::DNS  ...missing.
- POE::Component::Client::HTTP ...missing.
- Xango                        ...missing. (would need 1.04)
- POE                          ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 5 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Bundle::Defaults]
[CustomFeed::FlickrSearch]
- Flickr::API                  ...missing.
- DateTime::Format::Epoch      ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[CustomFeed::Mixi]
- WWW::Mixi                    ...missing. (would need 0.46)
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[CustomFeed::SVNLog]
- SVN::Core                    ...missing.
- SVN::Client                  ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[CustomFeed::Script]
- YAML::Syck                   ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::2chNewsokuTitle]
[Filter::2chRSSContent]
[Filter::AtomLinkRelate d]
- List::Util                   ...loaded. (1.18)
[Filter::Babelfish]
- Locale::Language             ...loaded. (2.07)
- WWW::Babelfish               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::BlogPet]
[Filter::Delicious]
[Filter::DeliciousFeedTags]
[Filte r::Emoticon]
- Text::Emoticon               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::EntryFullText]
- HTML::ResolveLink            ...loaded. (0.03)
[Filter::ExtractAuthorName]
- Email::Address               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::FeedFlareStripper]
[Filter::FindEnclosures]
- List::Util                   ...loaded. (1.18)
- HTML::TokeParser             ...loaded. (2.37)
[Filter::FloatingDateTime]
[Filter::ForceTimeZone]
[Filter::GuessLangu age]
- Lingua::ZH::HanDetect        ...missing.
- Locale::Language             ...loaded. (2.07)
- Text::Language::Guess        ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::GuessTimeZoneByDomain]
- DateTime::TimeZone           ...missing. (would need 0.51)
- IP::Country                  ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::HatenaBookmarkTag]
[Filter::HatenaBookmarkUsersCount]
- XMLRPC::Lite                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::HatenaDiaryKeywordLink]
- XMLRPC::Lite                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::HatenaFormat]
- Text::Hatena                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::HatenaKeywordTag]
- Hatena::Keyword              ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::ImageInfo]
- Image::Info                  ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::Kansai]
[Filter::LivedoorClipUsersCount]
- XMLRPC::Lite                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::Markdown]
- Text::Markdown               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::POPFile]
- XMLRPC::Lite                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::Pipe]
- IPC::Run                     ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::Profanity]
- Regexp::Common::profanity_us ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::RSSLiberalDateTime]
- Date::Parse                  ...loaded. (2.27)
[Filter::ResolveRelativeLink]
- HTML::ResolveLink            ...loaded. (0.03 >= 0.02)
[Filter::Romanize]
- Text::Kakasi                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::SpamAssassin]
- Mail::SpamAssassin           ...missing.
- MIME::Lite                   ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::StripRSSAd]
[Filter::TTP]
- URI::Find                    ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::Thumbnail]
[Filter::URLBL]
- URI::Find                    ...missing.
- Net::DNS::Resolver           ...loaded. (513)
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Filter::UnicodeNormalize]
- Unicode::Normalize           ...loaded. (0.32)
[Filter::tDiaryComment]
[Namespace::ApplePhotocast]
[Namespace::Hatena Fotolife]
[Namespace::MediaRSS]
[Notify::Audio]
[Notify::Audio::MSWin32]
- Win32::Sound                 ...loaded. (0.47)
[Notify::Audio::iTunesWin32]
- Win32::OLE                   ...loaded. (0.1703)
[Notify::Balloon]
- Win32::Console               ...loaded. (0.07)
[Notify::Beep]
- Audio::Beep                  ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Notify::Command]
[Notify::Eject::mswin32]
- Win32::MCI::Basic            ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Notify::IRC]
- POE::Component::IRC          ...missing.
- POE::Component::IKC::Client  ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Notify::NetSend]
- Net::NetSend                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Notify::OpenBrowser]
[Notify::OpenBrowser::FirefoxRemote]
[Notify::Updat ePing]
- XMLRPC::Lite                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::2chdat]
- DateTime::Locale             ...loaded. (0.22)
[Publish::CHTML]
[Publish::CSV]
- Text::CSV_PP                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::Delicious]
- Net::Delicious               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::Excel]
- Spreadsheet::WriteExcel      ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::IMAP]
- Mail::IMAPClient             ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::JSON]
- JSON::Syck                   ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::JavaScript]
- Template::Plugin::JavaScript ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::MT]
- Net::MovableType             ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::Maildir]
- MIME::Lite                   ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::PDF]
- PDF::FromHTML                ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::PalmDoc]
- Palm::PalmDoc                ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::PowerPoint]
- Win32::PowerPoint            ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::SWF]
- SWF::Builder                 ...missing.
- Text::WrapI18N               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::Serializer]
- Data::Serializer             ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::Speech::Win32]
- Locale::Language             ...loaded. (2.07)
- Win32::OLE                   ...loaded. (0.1703)
- Locale::Country              ...loaded. (2.07)
- Win32::SAPI4                 ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Publish::Takahashi]
[Publish::iCal]
- DateTime::Format::ICal       ...missing.
- Data::ICal                   ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Rule::URLBL]
- Net::DNS::Resolver           ...loaded. (513)
[Search::Estraier]
- Search::Estraier             ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Search::Grep]
- File::Grep                   ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Search::KinoSearch]
- KinoSearch                   ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Subscription::Bookmarks::InternetExplorer]
- Win32::Locale                ...missing.
- Win32::IEFavorites           ...missing. (would need 0.03)
==> Auto-install the 2 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Subscription::Bookmarks::Mozilla]
[Subscription::DBI]
- DBIx::Class::Schema          ...loaded. (0)
[Subscription::FOAF]
- XML::FOAF                    ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Subscription::HatenaRSS]
- WWW::Mechanize               ...loaded. (1.21_01)
[Subscription::LivedoorReader]
- WWW::Mechanize               ...loaded. (1.21_01)
- JSON::Syck                   ...missing. (would need 0.1)
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Subscription::Odeo]
[Subscription::PingServer]
[Subscription::PlanetINI]
- Config::INI::Simple          ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Subscription::XOXO]
[Subscription::XPath]
- HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath     ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Summary-Auto]
[Summary-English]
- Lingua::EN::Summarize        ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Summary-HatenaBookmark]
[Summary-Simple]
[Summary-TextOriginal]
- Text::Original               ...missing.
==> Auto-install the 1 optional module(s) from CPAN? [n]
[Summary-TrackbackRDF]
[Widget::Simple]
*** Dependencies will be installed the next time you type 'dmake'.
*** Module::AutoInstall configuration finished.
Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good
Warning: prerequisite Term::Encoding 0 not found.
Warning: prerequisite XML::Atom 0.23 not found.
Warning: prerequisite XML::Feed 0.12 not found.
Warning: prerequisite XML::LibXML 0 not found.
Warning: prerequisite XML::RSS::LibXML 0.23 not found.
Writing Makefile for Plagger

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  • Now that's strong typing!

  • What on earth does that have to do with Module::Install?

    You could write an equally crazy Makefile.PL with any of the three installers.

    Plagger has a zillion optional dependencies, and the Plagger author wants you say which ones you want.
    • Some sort of UI::Dialog thingie for that kind of task would be infinitely nicer, though.

    • When I run into these situations, I don't know which optional dependencies I want. Just install everything and stop asking me!

      People could write wacky Makefile.PLs in any method, as you say, but the only one that annoys me about once a week (or ever, really), is Module::Install. If it did it's work without me knowing about it, I wouldn't care.

      It really sucks to walk away from a terminal thinking everything will be downloaded and installed when I get back, only to find Module::Install asking me a question a
  • I don't really care too much for Module::Install simply because auto-install doesn't. It insists on asking me.

    I'm not even sure what the point of the whole thing is other than not using Makemaker.
    • The auto-install parts of Module::Install is one part I'm gradually trying to pull out, as they have taken on something of a mitichondrial role, and we really need something better.

      As for what it does, it does two things.

      1. Makes writing Makefile.PL much simpler
      2. Allows new install functionality WITHOUT needing every single end user to upgrade.

      For example, here's a sample Module::Install installer.

          use strict;
          use inc::Module::Install;

          name 'Foo-CV