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Sunday August 08, 2004
08:02 AM

IT unemployment

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From InformationWeek reporting on data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (via Slashdot), here are the unemployment rates for IT professionals broken out by category:
DB Admins:
2.8%
Software Engineers:
3.2%
Managers:
4.6%
Sys Admins:
5.7%
System Analysts:
8.2%
Programmers:
8.3%

National average for unemployement across all industries: 5.3%.

Since I know there are a few programmers on this site, I'm betting these numbers aren't all that surprising to you. If you don't like these numbers, perhaps you can do something about it.

Or not.

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  • Congratulations, JJohn. You are the recipient of my monthly plug for The Clock of the Long Now [amazon.com]!

    The reason why there is high unemployment is because of the business cycle. Whoever is in office can do very little to change that, and close to nothing during four years in office.

    The bad economy in 1992 was the result of plans and policies from the late 1980s. The seeds of change that Clinton put into place didn't really take effect until his second term. The long term economic instability that W had

    • You are the recipient of my monthly plug for The Clock of the Long Now!

      Thank you for the nod, Zig.

      Normally, I'd agree with you. Bush seems to be more culpable than other presidents for the regression in jobs, particularly in the tech market.

      • Rather than discourage or stay neutral, Bush has given tax credits for companies offshoring jobs
      • His Commerce Secretary Don Evans suggested that those who have lost jobs to offshoring "stop whining"
      • The U.S. Chamber of Commerce gives advice to companies
      • I respect your position, but I'm not going to get involved in the offshoring debate (again). It's an easy issue to take a shallow sound-bite of a position that is easy to express and fundementally wrong. I am not accusing you of being simple-minded here, but I've heard a lot of people equate no jobs at home == jobs going to India == very bad policy. And that bothers me.

        But offshoring is also about sending jobs to Ireland, Canada, Australia and elsewhere. Most detractors conveniently forget this part

      • Rather than discourage or stay neutral, Bush has given tax credits for companies offshoring jobs

        This is false. Those tax credits do exist, but they existed before Bush took office. Also, offshoring is a very small problem, accounting for 2.5% of major layoffs in 1Q 2004.

        And what would Kerry's plan do? It would tax foreign income right away, instead of allowing it to be deferred. Kerry would also LOWER the corporate tax rate, by 1.75 percent, and they would keep the tax credit that you're bemoaning, t
  • The perl.jobs.org listings are really picking up, OSCON was packed, I'm getting cold calls from recruiters again... looks more like the job market is the best it's been in years. I don't give Bush even the tiniest bit of credit for that, but I don't know where these people are looking if they think the job market is bad right now.
    • At least one of your job offers related indirectly to business done to help re-defeat Bush. If it weren't for Bush, that wouldn't have been such a big issue, and that employer might not have been in a position to hire you.

      This is not credit of the kind that Bush wants, but still it is credit for Bush. :-)