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Stories, comments, journals, and other submissions posted on use Perl; are Copyright their respective owners. 2012-01-25T01:46:32+00:00 pudge pudge@perl.org Technology hourly 1 1970-01-01T00:00+00:00 jdavidb's Friends' Journals http://use.perl.org/images/topics/useperl.gif http://use.perl.org/~jdavidb/journal/friends/ Finally, some Test::Builder2 examples! http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40528?from=rss <p>For my PDX.pm presentation tonight on <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/tree/Test-Builder2">Test::Builder2</a> I threw together some quick examples of some of its killer features, in particular demonstrating changing how Test::Builder2 behaves using method modifiers and applying object roles.</p><p>First, demonstrating end-of-assert actions, there's <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/examples/TB2/lib/TB2/DieOnFail.pm">die on fail</a> but even cooler is <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/examples/TB2/lib/TB2/DebugOnFail.pm">DEBUG on fail</a>! That's right, run your test in the debugger and have it automatically set a breakpoint on a failure. How cool is that?</p><p>I'm sure somebody with better debugger foo than I can make it even cooler and stop at the top of the assert stack rather than inside DebugOnFail.</p><p>The second is reimplementing <a href="http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Test::NoWarnings">Test::NoWarnings</a> safely. <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/examples/TB2/lib/TB2/NoWarnings.pm">TB2::NoWarnings</a> demonstrates hooking into the start and end of the test as well as safely altering the number of tests planned by trapping the call to set_plan.</p><p>You can safely use them all together, though its a crap shoot if DebugOnFail or DieOnFail will trigger first.</p><p>While roles and method modifiers are relatively new to the Perl community, using them in lieu of designing my own event system for TB2 has two great advantages. First, I didn't have to design and debug my own event system.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) Second, rather than having to learn the quirks of a one-off system, you learn the quirks of Mo[uo]se and then can apply that knowledge all over the place.</p><p>There's <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/issues/labels/Test-Builder2">a pile of stuff to be done in TB2</a>, a lot of them are fairly small and self contained. Have a look. Patches welcome.</p> schwern 2010-09-09T08:33:42+00:00 journal Test::Builder2 at 10k Feet http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40527?from=rss <p>Here's a diagram of the "flow" of assert results through Test::Builder version 1.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.-------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| foo.t |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.-------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.----------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| Test::More&nbsp; |&lt;---------&gt;| Test::Whatever |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'----------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.---------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '----&gt;| Test::Builder |&lt;----'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '---------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.-----.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| TAP |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-----'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.---------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | Test::Harness |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '---------------'</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>You write foo.t using Test::More and Test::Whatever. These both<br>use the same Test::Builder object. It spits out TAP which<br>Test::Harness converts into something human readable.</p><p>The big problem there is Test::Builder is monolithic. There's no<br>further breakdown of responsibilities. It only spits out TAP, and<br>only one version of TAP.</p><p>Here's what Test::Builder2 looks like:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.-------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.----------------| foo.t |-------------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '-------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;v&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.----------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.------------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | Test::More |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| Test::Whatever |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| Test::NotUpdated |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'----------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'------------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.----------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.---------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'----------&gt;| Test::Builder2 |&lt;------| Test::Builder |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'----------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'---------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.--------------.&nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.-------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| TB2::History |&lt;---| TB2::Result |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'--------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; '-------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.--------------------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.---------------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; | TB2::Formatter::TAP::v13 |&lt;-----'------&gt;| TB2::Formatter::GUI |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; '--------------------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '---------------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.-------------------------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; | TB2::Formatter::Streamer::TAP |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; '-------------------------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.-----.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| TAP |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-----'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.---------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.-----------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | Test::Harness |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| Pretty Pictures |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '---------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-----------------'</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>It starts out the same, foo.t uses a bunch of test modules<br>including Test::More and Test::Whatever using the same Test::Builder2<br>object, but it also uses Test::NotUpdated which is still using<br>Test::Builder. That's ok because Test::Builder has been rewritten in<br>terms of Test::Builder2 (more on that below).</p><p>Test::Builder2, rather than being a monolith, produces a<br>Test::Builder2::Result object for each assert run. This gets stored<br>in a Test::Builder2::History object for possible later use. It also<br>gets handed to a Test::Builder2::Formatter object, the default is<br>Test::Builder2::TAP::v13 which produces TAP version 13. This is fed<br>to a Streamer that prints it to STDOUT and STDERR which is read by<br>Test::Harness and made human readable.</p><p>Because Test::Builder2 is not monolithic, you can swap out parts. For<br>example, instead of outputting TAP it could instead hand results to a<br>formatter that produced a simple GUI representation, maybe a green<br>bar, or something that hooks into a larger GUI. Or maybe one that<br>produces JUnit XML.</p><p>Here's how Test::Builder and Test::Builder2 Relate.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.-----.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.-----.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | TB2 |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| TB1 |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '-----'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-----'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;v&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.-------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.--------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;.-------------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; | TB2::Result |-------&gt;| TB2::History |&lt;--------| TB2::Result |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; '-------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '--------------'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.----------------.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;'-------------&gt;| TB2::Formatter |&lt;--------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '----------------'<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;v<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.--------.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | Output |<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; '--------'</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Test::Builder and Test::Builder2 coordinate their actions by sharing<br>the same History and Formatter objects. If you call TB1-&gt;ok() it<br>produces a Result object which it hands to the History singleton and<br>the Formatter singleton. If you call TB2-&gt;ok() it produces a Result<br>object which it hands to the same History and Formatter objects.</p><p>This allows most of the Test::Builder code to remain the same while<br>still coordinating with Test::Builder2. It also allows radically<br>different builders to be made without Test::Builder2 dictating how<br>they're to work.</p><p>The downside is that roles applied to Test::Builder2 will not effect<br>Test::Builder. Because of this, Test::Builder may become more closely<br>coupled with Test::Builder2 in the future.</p><p>Diagrams by <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-Asciio">App::Asciio</a>.</p> schwern 2010-09-09T08:15:22+00:00 journal use Perl; Shutting Down Indefinitely http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40525?from=rss <p>See <a href="http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=10/09/08/2053239">here</a>.</p> pudge 2010-09-08T22:07:47+00:00 useperl A month of Test::Builder2 http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40517?from=rss <p>I've had <a href="http://www.perlfoundation.org/test_builder_2">a grant open for Test::Builder2</a> for, oh god over two years now. Since I started it, Perl 6 has had a release! I think its the second oldest running dev grant.</p><p>I've cleared the decks of other responsibilities and can dedicate September to, if not finishing, then at least releasing something people can poke at. First alpha release was supposed to be "two weeks after the start" ha ha ha! oh god. The design has evolved and simplified greatly in the intervening two years, but its time to get something the hell out the door. At least a <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/tree/Test-Builder2">Test::Builder2</a> Star if you will.</p><p>There's critical components missing. There's no diagnostics, YAML or otherwise. The issues with nested asserts are still congealing. Plans are not enforced. Result objects are in the middle of being remodeled... again. But Test::Builder is using what parts of Test::Builder2 are usable. Multiple output formats and streams work. Asserts can be nested in the common, simple cases without having to fiddle with $Level. And you can hook into various events.</p><p>Step one is I'm going to seal up what's there, write docs where they're missing, and release something.</p><p>A release before October or the grant dies.</p> schwern 2010-08-28T04:08:39+00:00 journal Alien::SVN - new release, new management http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40503?from=rss <p>Those of you still stuck using Subversion will be happy to find <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~mlanier/Alien-SVN-1.6.12.0/">a new release of Alien::SVN</a>. It drags it forward to 1.6.12, doesn't do much else.</p><p>Also, Alien::SVN has finally found a new manager! From out of the blue comes <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~mlanier/">Matthew Lanier</a> with a patch and the will and a PAUSE ID. He'll be taking care of things from now on. Its his first CPAN module, be gentle. Godspeed, Matthew.</p> schwern 2010-08-18T22:33:29+00:00 journal use Perl; http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40493?from=rss <p>I am no longer working for Slashdot/Geeknet as of September 30. I am actively seeking new employment. Unless you want to hire me, you don't need to care, unless you also care about <a href="http://use.perl.org/">use Perl;</a>, because it has been generously hosted by Geeknet since I started the site over 10 years ago, shortly after I was hired by Andover.Net to work on Slashdot.</p><p>Long story short, I have not done much with the site in recent years, so my options at this point are to do nothing; migrate the site to a new server and keep it running as-is; or take the data and do something with it on a new site. Or something I haven't thought of.</p><p>I am hereby accepting proposals for what to do with use Perl;. In short, I would like to donate it to someone who will give it a good home. If you're interested, give me your best pitch.</p><p>Cross-posted on <a href="http://pudge.net/glob/2010/08/use-perl.html">&lt;pudge/*&gt;</a>.</p> pudge 2010-08-11T23:34:11+00:00 journal Matt Trout, aka mst, is insane http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40492?from=rss <p>Wow. I occasionally, but not too often, go into #perl. Very busy with family and life. So I go in today, and for no reason, <a href="http://www.trout.me.uk/">mst</a> bans me and tells me to not come back.</p><p>What's up with him being such an irrational dick?</p> pudge 2010-08-11T16:41:54+00:00 journal Test::Builder2::Design http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40487?from=rss <p>In an effort to shed some light on what Test::Builder2 is about, I took a few hours and performed a brain dump about its goals and design. You can see the result in the new <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/lib/Test/Builder2/Design.pod">Test::Builder2::Design</a> document.</p><p>The key design goals are 1) that it has to work, 2) that it has to work everywhere and 3) that it has to test everything. This throws out a lot of 98% solutions.</p> schwern 2010-08-10T02:31:05+00:00 journal Method::Signatures returns! 5.12, func() and fast! http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40474?from=rss <p>Chip submitted a minor performance patch to Method::Signatures today. That drove me to push out <a href="http://github.com/schwern/method-signatures/blob/v20100730/Changes">a new release</a> making it friendly to 5.12 and adding func() for non methods!</p><p> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; func hello(:$greeting = "Hello",<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:$place = "World") {<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; print "$greeting, $place!\n";<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; }</p><p> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; hello( place =&gt; "Earth" );</p><p>For those who don't know, one of the neato features of <a href="http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Method::Signatures">Method::Signatures</a> is that it can <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~mschwern/Method-Signatures-20090620/lib/Method/Signatures.pm#Aliased_references">alias references</a> to make working with references less of a trial:</p><p> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; func popn(\@array, $howmany) {<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; return splice @array, -$howmany;<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; }</p><p> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; my @stuff = (1,2,3,4,5);<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; my @last_three = popn(\@stuff, 3); # 3,4,5<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; print @last_three;</p><p>It does this with the amazing <a href="http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Data::Alias">Data::Alias</a> module. Unfortunately, 5.12 broke its black magic and its non-trivial to fix. Method::Signatures now makes Devel::Alias an optional dependency. If its available, it'll use it. Otherwise, no aliasing for you.</p><p>But that's ok, because perl5i makes working with references enjoyable. And while perl5i is adding its own simple signatures, they're forward compatible with Method::Signatures! They play together, so if you want perl5i and the full power of Method::Signatures you can have them.</p><p> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; use perl5i::2;<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; use Method::Signatures;</p><p> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; func echo($message is ro) {<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; say $message;<br> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; }</p><p>Just make sure you load MS after perl5i. The last one loaded wins.</p><p>Finally, I was comparing Method::Signatures with MooseX::Method::Signatures and made a disturbing discovery. I always new MooseX::Method::Signatures would have a performance penalty, it does more checks than Method::Signatures, I just didn't realize how bad it was.</p><p>Here's comparing an empty signature: <code>method foo() {}</code>.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Rate&nbsp; &nbsp; MMS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;MS&nbsp; &nbsp; Std<br>MMS&nbsp; &nbsp; 3207/s&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--&nbsp; -100%&nbsp; -100%<br>MS&nbsp; 1498875/s 46644%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--&nbsp; &nbsp; -1%<br>Std 1508351/s 46940%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>That's showing MooseX::Method::Signatures is 450x slower than either Method::Signatures or a normal method call creaking out a mere 3500 method calls per second as compared to the 1.5 million it should be doing. And that's for a method with an empty signature!</p><p>To be clear, that's the speed of calling a method, not compiling them.</p><p>Here's one comparing a simple signature that requires a check, so MS can't optimize it away: <code>method foo($arg!) { return $arg + 1 }</code> That's a required positional argument.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Rate&nbsp; &nbsp; MMS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;MS&nbsp; &nbsp; Std<br>MMS&nbsp; &nbsp; 2928/s&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--&nbsp; -100%&nbsp; -100%<br>MS&nbsp; &nbsp;983127/s 33481%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--&nbsp; &nbsp; -2%<br>Std 1005357/s 34240%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>3000 method calls instead of a million.</p><p>Now I'm the first to counter arguments bemoaning method call overhead. Usually it doesn't matter. Usually the extra cost of calling a method and checking arguments is insignificant compared to what that method actually does. And MooseX::Method::Signatures has features Method::Signatures does not, most significantly type checking. But my god! Three orders of magnitude of performance lost! And its not even using the extra MMS features. That's just too much.</p> schwern 2010-07-31T00:49:55+00:00 journal Perl 6 Is The Language Your Language Could Smell Like http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40472?from=rss <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE">Hello programmers</a>. Look at your code, now at Perl 6, now back at your code, now back at Perl 6! Sadly, your code is not written in Perl 6. But if you use <a href="http://rakudo.org/announce/rakudo-star/2010.07">Rakudo Star</a> then Perl 6 is the language your code could be written in!</p><p><a href="http://github.com/rakudo/star/downloads">Now Microsoft scented!</a></p> schwern 2010-07-29T19:24:09+00:00 journal "def" or "func"? http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40444?from=rss <p>perl5i 2.3.0_01 now has <a href="http://twitter.com/perl5i/status/18391811333">basic methods and subroutine signatures</a> with code basically lifted straight from <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Method-Signatures-Simple">Method::Signatures::Simple</a>. <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Declare">MooseX::Declare</a> got me addicted, now I want them everywhere.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>use perl5i::2;<br> &nbsp; <br>def add($this, $that) {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; return $this + $that;<br>}<br> &nbsp; <br>method new($class: %args) {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; return bless \%args, $class;<br>}<br> &nbsp; <br>my $echo = def($arg) { return $arg };</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Its alpha for two reasons. First, I don't have time right now to really thoroughly test it, but I really want it.</p><p>Second, overriding "sub" is hard. <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/signatures">Its been done</a> but its a bit twitchy. Defining a new keyword is easy(er). So what should that keyword be? I've come up with two that have good arguments. "def" and "func". Both are short. "def" has the benefit of being used by other programming languages a Perl programmer is likely to encounter and not hate (Python, Ruby, Scala, Groovy). "func" is nice because it pretty clearly means "function" whereas "define" is a bit ambiguous.</p><p>perl5i currently does both. Only one will survive in version 3 (the other will be deprecated). Before you comment on which is your favorite, try it for a little bit. I found a difference between what I thought I like and what I actually use.</p> schwern 2010-07-13T00:06:57+00:00 journal Where The Hell Is Test::Builder2? http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40421?from=rss <p>My progress and communication about the Test::Builder2 grant has been nothing short of appalling. There is a sort of herky-jerky progress where I figure out a design problem, push the code forward, then remember a use-case that throws a wrench in the whole design and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt again.</p><p>At the QA hackathon we elegantly solved the problem of things like <a href="ahref=">die-on-fail and Test::NoWarnings</a> but then ran afoul of things like Test::Warn and Test::Exception which runs tests inside of tests but those aren't actually part of the test stack.</p><p>Confused? I'll post more about it another time. Point is, TB2 continues to move forward, its just that there's long periods of rumination between sprints of development. And I get distracted by other projects. At this rate I'll be collecting Social Security before I collect the second half of the grant. I really want TB2 to happen, but something decisive has to be done. I work best with hard deadlines, so the plan is to clear a month for working mostly on TB2. A lot of the wibbling is trying to come up with the most elegant solution, but I usually have a less than elegant way to solve it and move forward. If its between an elegant TB2 that doesn't exist and a less elegant TB2 that does, well, go with the one that exists. With the way my schedule is looking, that will probably be mid-August to mid-September. If that doesn't produce an alpha, then I'll kill the grant.</p><p>That doesn't mean TPF gets nothing for your money. Chunks of TB2 can be harvested to improve TB1. Specifically, the TB2 formatting and history objects. The TB2 formatter makes the guts of TB1 cleaner, and it also allows it to produce something other than TAP. Used together, history and formatter allows non-Test::Builder based test frameworks to work together with Test::Builder providing even more flexibility. This is <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/lib/Test/Builder.pm">already done in the TB2 branch</a>.</p><p>Looking at the grant deliverables, most of it is done:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>* Split up global shared Test resources into individual objects<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * The test counter<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * The output filehandles<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * The plan<br> &nbsp; <br>* Allow hooks for global beginning and end of test functions.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * Ensure multiple hooks "stack"<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * die on fail<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * debug on fail<br> &nbsp; <br>* Hooks for global beginning and end of test actions<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * Example: A safer Test::NoWarnings<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * Example: Don't cleanup temp files on failure so they can be debugged<br> &nbsp; <br>* Allow for test output other than TAP<br> &nbsp; <br>* Allow another Test::Builder-like module to work in the same process<br>&nbsp; as Test::Builder (for example, sharing the counter).<br> &nbsp; <br>* Rewrite Test::Builder in terms of Test::Builder2.</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Here's what's not complete:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>* Split up localizable behaviors into objects<br> &nbsp; <br>* Allow individual test modules to locally override Test::Builder2 behaviors<br> &nbsp; <br>* Allow test modules to globally override Test::Builder2 behaviors<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; * How the plan works</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Since I'm not writing to the letter of the law, <a href="http://github.com/schwern/test-more/issues/labels/Test-Builder2">there's more than that to be done before release</a>, but the project does move.</p> schwern 2010-06-27T19:16:09+00:00 journal The Post-YAPC Plan http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40420?from=rss <p>I spent most of YAPC::NA mildly sick, sleep deprived and writing talks. Each of those things alone isn't so bad, but put all together meant I had time and energy enough to do my talks, discuss with people after, and that's about it. As a result, I was kind of dead in the head most of the time and didn't do a whole lot of interaction with people. I didn't feel like I got the most out of the one opportunity a year I get to hang out with huge gobs of Perl folk.</p><p>One of the things which I wanted to do at YAPC was get <a href="http://gitpan.integra.net/">gitpan</a> restarted. It can run right now, but the code is a mess and needs to be babied. It needs a rewrite. That rewrite was supposed to happen at YAPC but see above. I'm doing that now, using MooseX::Declare, perl5i and Path::Class just to mess around with them seriously. Also log4perl, which I'm finally learning a decade late. Its fun, far more pleasant than knocking it together without, once you learn to cope with Moose's idiosyncrasies. Better to learn the quirks of one complete system than nine incomplete ones.</p><p>That's what's absorbing my time right now. After that I want to add subroutine signatures to perl5i and the <a href="http://piratepad.net/ULub7Vjsgn">&#252;ber file and directory objects</a>. They were supposed to be in, at least as a prototype, by YAPC but that didn't work out. Using MooseX::Declare, Path::Class and perl5i together has me drooling for them.</p><p>Will Coleda, representing the TPF, found me at YAPC and mercifully did not break my legs. We hashed out a plan to make a last stab at Test::Builder2 before calling the grant done. That's not going to happen until August, I'll post about that later.</p><p>Oh, and I have a talk to do at OSCON about how <a href="http://www.oscon.com/oscon2010/public/schedule/detail/14113">the world is going to end in 2038</a> assuming <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0">2012 doesn't claim the prize first</a>. And a two part <a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/420">Git tutorial for Drupal programmers</a> that I'm developing into a commercial class. And two paid clients to keep happy.</p><p>One thing I *don't* have to worry about is MakeMaker. Gird your loins, MakeMaker has provisionally been handed off to Matt Trout. Maybe I need to worry about it more...</p> schwern 2010-06-27T18:34:30+00:00 journal Summary of Celtics vs. Lakers NBA Finals History http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40370?from=rss <p>There have been 60 NBA Finals. The Boston Celtics have won 17, and the Minneapolis/Los Angeles Lakers have won 15, which amounts to those teams winning more than half of all NBA Finals. This year, they play each other in the Finals again, making it 33 champions out of 61 being either the Lakers or the Celtics.</p><p>Additionally, 39 of the 61 Finals have included either the Lakers or the Celtics. Including this year, the Celtics and Lakers have played each other in the Finals a whopping 12 times (just under one-fifth of all Finals have been these two teams).</p><p>The Celtics have made 21 total Finals appearances, so have faced the Lakers more than half of the times they've been in the Finals. The Lakers have made 30 Finals appearances, facing the Celtics in two-fifths of those.</p><p>The Celtics won nine of those against the Lakers, which accounts for more than half of all their 17 championships. The Lakers' two victories over the Celtics came after the Celtics won their first eight encounters.</p><p>The longest streak without either team in the Finals was eight years from '92-'99. The longest streak <b>with</b> either the Lakers or Celtics in the Finals was 10 years, done twice (from '57-'66, in which the Celtics appears all 10 years, and the Lakers five of those; and '80-'89, in which the Lakers appeared eight times, the Celtics five).</p><p>The longest streak for one team appearing in the Finals was, as noted, Boston, in the 10 years from '57-'66. Boston won nine of those 10 years, including eight in a row (the longest winning streak from any one team) from '59-'66, and also won 10 in 12 years, from '57-'69.</p><p>The Lakers' longest appearance streak is "only" four, from '82-'85, winning twice; but they have also appeared three times in a row five additional times (including the current three-year streak). In two of those, they won all three years; in one, they lost all three.</p><p>The only other team to "threepeat" was the Bulls, winning three years in a row twice in eight years ('91-'98). No other team but the Celtics and Lakers have had four consecutive appearances. The only other team to have three consecutive appearances was the Knicks, losing all three from '51-'53.</p><p>The 2010 NBA Finals begin in Los Angeles on Thursday.</p><p>Cross-posted on <a href="http://pudge.net/glob/2010/05/summary-of-celtics-vs-lakers-nba-finals-history.html">&lt;pudge/*&gt;</a>.</p> pudge 2010-05-30T05:25:50+00:00 journal Object::ID - A unique object identifier for any object http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40340?from=rss <p>Something Perl's OO has been missing has been a reliable way to identify an object. Is $this the same as $that? Not asking if it contains the same information, but is it a referent to the same object? Have we seen it before? When I alter $this will I also be changing $that?</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>package Foo;<br> &nbsp; <br>use Object::ID;<br> &nbsp; <br>...write the class however you want...</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Really, HOWEVER YOU WANT! Inside out, outside in, code refs, regexes, globs, Moose, Mouse... Call the constructor whatever you like, add in a DESTROY method. Doesn't matter, it'll work.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>my $id&nbsp; &nbsp;= $obj-&gt;object_id;<br>my $uuid = $obj-&gt;object_uuid;</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p> <code>object_id()</code> is a cheap, process-specific identifier. <code>object_uuid()</code> is a bit more expensive on first call (it has to generate the <a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Uuid">UUID</a>, about 30% slower) but it should be universally unique across machines and processes.</p><p>That's great for YOUR objects, but what about everyone else? You can either inject the Object::ID role one class at a time...</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>package DateTime;<br>use Object::ID;<br> &nbsp; <br>my $date = DateTime-&gt;now;<br>say $date-&gt;object_id;</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>or you can load UNIVERSAL::Object::ID and every object has it. EVERY OBJECT! Even things you don't realize are objects.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>use UNIVERSAL::Object::ID;<br> &nbsp; <br># Regexes are objects<br>say qr/foo/-&gt;object_id;<br> &nbsp; <br># Loading IO::Handle turns all filehandles into objects<br>use IO::Handle;<br>open my $fh, "foo/bar";<br>say $fh-&gt;object_id;</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>But OH GOD UNIVERSAL! Well, use at your own risk. Its handy to use in your own programs and private libraries. Or you can use <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Method-Lexical">Method::Lexical</a> and apply it lexically.</p><p>Why not just use the object's reference address? Well, as people implementing inside-out objects discovered, they're not unique. They're not thread safe, and worse they're not even unique for the life of the process. Perl will reuse the reference of a destroyed object. Observe:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>{<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; package Foo;<br> &nbsp; <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; sub new {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; my $class = shift;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; return bless {}, $class;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; }<br>}<br> &nbsp; <br>for(1..3) {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; my $obj = Foo-&gt;new;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; print "Object's reference is $obj\n";<br>}</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Run that and you should get the same reference, three times, for three different objects.</p><p>And then there's the problem of string overloaded objects. You have to be careful to always use Scalar::Util::refaddr or overload::StrVal.</p><p>It turns out inside-out objects have nearly the same problem, and 5.10.0 introduced field hashes to solve that. rjbs explains the pain of all this at slide 120 in his excellent <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/rjbs/perl-510-for-people-who-arent-totally-insane">5.10 For People Who Aren't Totally Insane</a>. You can read the <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/Hash-Util-FieldHash">gory details of field hashes</a> but it comes down to this: in 5.10 you can A) get a process unique, thread safe identifier for an object and B) you can store it in hash such that it gets destroyed when the object is destroyed. Perfect!</p><p>Because of this, if you look inside Object::ID you'll see there's not a lot to it. It makes a field hash to store the IDs in, a state variable to hold an ID counter, and then just accesses the field hash.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>use Hash::Util::FieldHash qw(fieldhash);<br>fieldhash(my %IDs);<br> &nbsp; <br>sub object_id {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; my $self = shift;<br> &nbsp; <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; state $last_id = "a";<br> &nbsp; <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; return $IDs{$self}<nobr> <wbr></nobr>//= ++$last_id;<br>}</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>No scary black magic (beyond what's inside fieldhash). Its so simple, which is why it works with everything.</p><p>Now, I didn't come up with this implementation. I just laid out the requirements and <a href="http://profvince.com/">Vincent Pit</a> filled in the blanks. I was only vaguely aware of field hashes, Vincent made the connection. Thank you VPIT!</p><p>Practical applications? Honestly, I'm not sure. I needed it as a shortcut for expensive object equality checks in perl5i. Maybe some of the OO theorists out there can fill this part in. Let me know what you might use it for.</p><p>Possible extensions? Well... with some tweaking Object::ID can be used as a universal object registry. Not only can you ask "does the object associated with this ID still exist" but field hashes provide the ability to get the object associated with an ID. It would only work on objects that have had their ID asked of them, and thus registered with the field hash, but how else would you have the ID? Is this useful? Is this a security hole? I dunno, but it would be easy.</p> schwern 2010-05-02T17:17:01+00:00 journal Unique http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40329?from=rss <p>I wonder how long it will be before people start just putting together random letters for names of companies, bands, and so on, so they can be unique in Google searches.</p><blockquote><div><p>Your search - fobhwueufg8 - did not match any documents.</p></div></blockquote><p>^^ my new band name</p><p>(Hm, "Did Not Match Any Documents" would be a fun band name. Or the name of the debut album of the band fobhwueufg8.)</p><p>Cross-posted on <a href="http://pudge.net/glob/2010/04/unique.html">&lt;pudge/*&gt;</a>.</p> pudge 2010-04-26T17:45:28+00:00 journal Bob Jacobsen interview on FLOSS Weekly http://use.perl.org/~merlyn/journal/40324?from=rss Last week, I interviewed Bob Jacobsen for FLOSS Weekly. Bob used Perl's Artistic 1.0 license on some Java code to manage model trains. The code was later patented by an Oregon-based company(!) and then Bob got sued(!!) for Bob distributing the other company's patented code(!!!). The good part of the story is that this is the first test at the US Federal Appeals Court level for an open source license to be enforceable even if no money exchanges hands, and... we won! <p> Bob spent a lot of time and money on the case though. Listen to <a href="http://twit.tv/floss117">the podcast</a> and contribute to <a href="http://jmri.sourceforge.net/donations.shtml">his legal defense</a> if you care about open source.</p> merlyn 2010-04-23T03:55:11+00:00 journal My Slashroulette Videos http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40290?from=rss <p>Today Slashdot did a spoof of Chatroulette, that we called Slashroulette. We prerecorded videos of ourselves and others. Here's five of the six I did (the sixth was me tuning the guitar, I didn't post that one on YouTube): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHwz6sG37_Q">video 1</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQYgAxVo050">video 2</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlJBlObJnJY">video 3</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWxewYtRc48">video 4</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkVisbPXHVo">video 5</a>.</p><p>Cross-posted on <a href="http://pudge.net/glob/2010/04/my-slashroulette-videos.html">&lt;pudge/*&gt;</a>.</p> pudge 2010-04-02T05:15:16+00:00 journal OMG UNICORNIFY::URL!!! &lt;3 http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40289?from=rss <p><a href="http://unicornify.appspot.com/avatar/e55e0ec3c00f834d78fbdddeaa36e308?s=128">OMG! A UNICORN PONY FOR MEEEE!!!</a></p><p>You can get 1 2 wth <a href="http://github.com/schwern/gravatar-url/blob/master/lib/Unicornify/URL.pm">Unicornify::URL</a>!! Here's a program to do it at the command line.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>use Acme::Pony;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;bUf<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fybuf<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FyBuFFYbU<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;FfyBUFfYbUff<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; YBuffybuFfyBuF<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fYbUffYBUfFYbUff<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; YbUFfYBuffYBuFFYBu<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;FFybUffYBUffYBUfFYb<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;UffYbUFfyBUffYBuFfyB<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;UFFybUfFYBuffYbUFF<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ybUfFyBuFfyBufFy<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;BuffYBufFyBUfFYB&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; uffY<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; bUffybuffyBUFfyBuf&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FYBuFfy<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BuFFybUFFyBUffyBuFFYbuffybUf&nbsp; &nbsp;fYbUfFYBu<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; fFYB&nbsp; &nbsp;uFFyBufFyBUfFYbufFYbUFFYbUFfyBufFYBufFYBu<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;FFyBufFyBUffYBufFYbUffYBUFfYBUFFyBuFfYbUFFybUffYBU<br> &nbsp; ffyBU fFYbuffYbUffybuffYbuFfYbuFFyBuFFyBUfFybufFYbUf<br>fYbUF&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fybUFfYBuffybuFfyBuFFYBuffYBUFFybuffybUffYBu<br>&nbsp; fFYBuf&nbsp; &nbsp; fyBuFFyBufFyBUffYBufFYbufFyBUFfybUFfYbuffyb<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;uFfyB&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;UffYBUfFybUfFYbuFfYBUFfYbUffYBuffybuFf<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;yBuFFY&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;BuffYBUFFybuffybUffYbufFYb<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ufFyb&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; UFfybufFYBuffybufFyb<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;UffYb&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; UffybUFfY buffybuF<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fybUf&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fyBuffy BUFfYbuF<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;FYbUF&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fyBuffYbuFFyBUFf<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ybUf&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Fybu&nbsp; ffYb UffybuF<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fYbu&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ffYB&nbsp; UFFy&nbsp; BuFFYB<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;UfFy&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;BuF&nbsp; &nbsp;fybU&nbsp; &nbsp;ffYB<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Uff&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Ybu<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fFyb&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; uFf<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; YBUF<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F<br> &nbsp; <br>yBuFFYBUfFy</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>&lt;3 k thx bye!!1!11!!!</p> schwern 2010-04-01T22:51:34+00:00 journal Some Facts About Schwern http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40271?from=rss <p><a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/">Open Source Bridge</a> requested that I improve <a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/users/111">my bio</a>, so I decided to share some facts about myself...</p><blockquote><div><p>Schwern has a copy of Perl 6, he lets Larry Wall borrow it and take notes.</p><p>Schwern once sneezed into a microphone and the text-to-speech conversion was a regex that turns crap into gold.</p><p>Damian Conway and Schwern once had an arm wrestling contest. The superposition still hasn&#8217;t collapsed.</p><p>Schwern was the keynote speaker at the first YAPC::Mars.</p><p>When Schwern runs a smoke test, the fire department is notified.</p><p>Dan Brown analyzed a JAPH Schwern wrote and discovered it contained the Bible.</p><p>Schwern writes Perl code that writes Makefiles that write shell scripts on VMS.</p><p>Schwern does not commit to master, master commits to Schwern.</p><p>SETI broadcast some of Schwern&#8217;s Perl code into space. 8 years later they got a reply thanking them for the improved hyper drive plans.</p><p>Schwern once accidentally typed &#8220;git pull &#8212;hard&#8221; and dragged Github&#8217;s server room 10 miles.</p><p>There are no free namespaces on CPAN, there are just modules Schwern has not written yet.</p><p>Perl's threads are implemented with a single strand of Schwern's hair.</p><p>"Schwern" cmp "Chuck Norris" will cause Perl to segfault rather than try to compare them.</p><p>Schwern&#8217;s tears are said to cure cancer, unfortunately his Perl code gives it right back.</p></div></blockquote> schwern 2010-03-26T03:45:05+00:00 journal The Basic Unit of Bug Report Frustration http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40260?from=rss <p>I submitted a proposal to OSCON called "How To Report A Bug" about the social issues involved in reporting and accepting bug reports. Its still pending, but its caused me to do a little writing for it. I came up with this introduction which I feel sums up the problem well. I'm also tickled that one measures bug report frustration in bags of shit.</p><blockquote><div><p>Developers often treat bug reports like someone dumping a bag of shit on your doorstep, ringing the bell and telling you to clean it up. That's not what they are. A bug report is someone pointing out that there's some shit on your doorstep, they stepped in it, and maybe it should be cleaned up.</p><p>Either way, nobody likes stepping in shit. And nobody likes cleaning up shit. So the whole interaction starts off on the wrong foot, perhaps the one covered in shit. Your job, as developer or as reporter, is to deliberately steer it back to being a positive one where the developer wants to fix shit and the reporter wants to continue to report shit.</p></div></blockquote> schwern 2010-03-22T23:57:26+00:00 journal Gone http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/40243?from=rss <p>Like many others, I'm no longer posting here very much. You'll find my new technical journal at <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/">blogs.perl.org</a>. It's much shinier.</p><p> <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/use.perl.org/">As you can see, use.perl visits have been dropping for a while</a> (blogs.perl.org is too new to show up on that search) and the <a href="http://use.perl.org/">front page of use.perl has been sadly neglected</a>. As for blogs.perl.org, after an initial rough start, <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/adam_kennedy/2009/12/migrating-from-useperlorg-to-blogsperlorg.html">plenty</a> <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/thefinalcut/2009/12/first-post-on-the-shiny-new-onion.html">of</a> <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/limbicregion/2009/11/goodbye-useperlorg-hello-blogsperlorg.html">people</a> are switching over and are very happy with the shiny.</p><p>I have fond memories of use.perl.org, but it's just too old and out-of-date. Come on over to our new platform and look around. Plus, <a href="http://github.com/davorg/blogs.perl.org/issues">tell us what you want changed about it</a>. (To be fair, while I was involved in the project to get it launched (mostly kibitzing and asking why things were stalled -- I'm such a marketroid<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:), the hands-on work was Dave Cross, Aaron Crane and the wonderful folks at <a href="http://www.sixapart.com/">SixApart</a>.)</p> Ovid 2010-03-14T08:02:43+00:00 journal Headsup on command line for shortcuts in Windows XP http://use.perl.org/~bart/journal/40219?from=rss <p>For Strawberry Perl, and Padre, I use a custom entry in the Start Menu, which technically is a shortcut (*.LNK file). For example, for Padre the command line in the shortcut file was:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/c PATH=c:\strawberry\perl\bin;c:\strawberry\c\bin;%PATH% &amp;&amp; padre</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Likewise, the command line for my Strawberry shell was:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/k PATH=c:\strawberry\perl\bin;c:\strawberry\c\bin;%PATH%</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Overnight, these both stopped working.</p><p>After a bit of puzzling, I figured out that a new program had been installed by Windows Update, and this had added a new directory to PATH. As a result, after the environment variable was substituted with its real value, the length of the expanded command line was now longer than 256 bytes, and now PATH got truncated.</p><p>Remember, folks:</p><blockquote><div><p> <b>The length of the command line for a shortcut, after expansion, should never be longer than 256 bytes.</b></p></div> </blockquote><p>If you put the code for modification of PATH in a *.BAT file, no such restriction applies.</p><p>So now, my shortcut to start the command shell is:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/k c:\strawberry\strawberry_path.bat</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>where c:\strawberry\strawberry_path.bat contains the lines</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>@echo off<br>PATH=C:\strawberry\c\bin;C:\strawberry\perl\bin;%PATH%</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>which makes it easier for me to add more Perl based tools that depend on these entries in PATH: I now have a central location for the definition, if I ever need to add or modify a directory.</p> bart 2010-03-02T14:26:35+00:00 journal dumping environment etc from batch perl script http://use.perl.org/~n1vux/journal/40205?from=rss <blockquote><div><p> <tt>use Data::Dumper;<br>print Dumper([&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;# like<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;{&nbsp; X=&gt;$^X},&nbsp; &nbsp;# which perl<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;# but not fooled by #!<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;{V0 =&gt;&nbsp; "$]", # perl -v , ditto<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;V =&gt; $^V lt v5.9.0<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ? q(v).(join(q(.),<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (map {ord}<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; split(//,$^V))))<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : "$^V"}<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;{ ENV =&gt; \%ENV} , # like env<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;#&nbsp; but in actual context<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;{ INC =&gt;\%INC}&nbsp; , # incomparable<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ]);</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>The ugly version of V for Version is to handle 5.6-5.9 v strings and 5.10+ version objects without knowing which, if you don't want <code>$]</code> to mess up your syntax highlighting and don't want <code>\005 </code> to trip a terminal echoback string when it vString doesn't print.</p> n1vux 2010-02-24T05:37:29+00:00 journal My Netgear Router is Dumber Than It Thinks It Is http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40163?from=rss <p>I upgraded the firmware on my Netgear router today and it wouldn't let me use the LAN IP I usually use for it, 10.0.1.1, because it thinks my ISP uses that subnet, because I set the router to read from my own internal DNS. Took me awhile to figure out <b>why</b> it thought what it did, because it didn't occur to me that it would care what DNS addresses I gave it.</p><p>Cross-posted on <a href="http://pudge.net/glob/2010/02/my-netgear-router-is-dumber-than-it-thinks-it-is.html">&lt;pudge/*&gt;</a>.</p> pudge 2010-02-07T02:09:27+00:00 journal Test::Class::Most http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/40148?from=rss <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2010/01/-package-sometestclass.html">Test::Class::Most</a>. Ovid 2010-01-31T19:25:10+00:00 journal Franchise Tag Whiners http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40146?from=rss <p>There's a long line of players in the NFL who claim that it is a personal offense when their teams place the franchise tag on them.</p><p>These players are big fat babies.</p><p>The players agreed to the franchise tag for the owners, as a compromise. The players take advantage of everything available to them under the contract; why shouldn't the owners do the same?</p><p>Stop crying. Stop whining. Sure, you don't like it, but so what? Grow up. Those are the rules that you agreed to.</p> pudge 2010-01-30T18:52:27+00:00 journal Testing with PostgreSQL http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/40145?from=rss <p>My new personal project has a PostgreSQL database. <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2010/01/testing-postgresql.html">Here's how I'm handling testing</a>.</p> Ovid 2010-01-30T16:22:57+00:00 journal ah, dreams... http://use.perl.org/~Matts/journal/40130?from=rss <p>I just woke from a dream where it was rjbs' birthday and we got him an onion cake. Only the person who made the cake misunderstood, and instead of a cake shaped like an onion he cooked it WITH onions in it.</p><p>Bizarro.</p> Matts 2010-01-26T10:31:17+00:00 journal Time::Piece test failures on Win32 http://use.perl.org/~Matts/journal/40129?from=rss <p>Can someone with Time::Piece test failures on Win32 please contact me offlist? I have a proposed patch I'd like to test, but no Win32 perl to test it on.</p> Matts 2010-01-25T23:23:53+00:00 journal