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J. David Blackstone has a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and Engineering and nine years of experience at a wireless telecommunications company, where he learned Perl and never looked back. J. David has an advantage in that he works really hard, he has a passion for writing good software, and he knows many of the world's best Perl programmers.

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Thursday June 10, 2004
03:25 PM

Stem Cells

[ #19184 ]

I figured I'd title this entry as descriptively as I could to clue in everyone as quickly as possible that I'm addressing a controversial issue.

George Bush's "ban on stem cell research" is often misexplained. What was banned, specifically, was federal funding of research on new stem cell lines after the ban, i.e., on stem cell lines arising from embryos destroyed after the ban. Bush's ban allows federal funding on those 78 stem cell lines that were in existence before the ban. (Yes, research indicates that either these particular lines are not useful or that they have aged beyond the point of usability.) Bush's ban also allows private funding of research on new stem cell lines. The government has not prohibited research on all stem cell lines nor on new stem cell lines; only withheld funding for research on new stem cell lines.

If I understand correctly, state funding of research on new stem cell lines would also be permitted.

Melton has also announced the development, with private funds, of 17 new embryonic lines. -- article

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  • If you put your tin foil hat on just right, you may think that stem cell research could be the biggest area of financial gain in the field of medicine.

    And, you wouldn't want to spoil that by mixing in federal funds and possibly having to put the findings into the public domain.

    Taking the federal money out of the picture makes it a nice... um... "investment opportunity".
    • Backing up in general and ignoring the ethical issues ... that's the way I think it should be, anyway. The government should never fund stuff like this, because then it sets itself up in competition with private business. We should let private investment drive the space program, the educational system, disease research, etc. And I promise you that things would continue to be funded ... witness all the breast cancer marathons and such. In fact, I'm personally pledged that if the government quits taxing m

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      J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
      • That is a nice theory, and it would most likely be better than what we have going on right now... if it worked.

        I'm not sure it would... here is why:

        As an investor, I would not want a cure for Aids... or a cure for Cancer. (for example)

        Instead, I would want a drug that allowed you to live a somewhat "normal" life (and in the casee of Aids, I would want you spreading the disease) for as long as you bought and paid for my "cure". This solution would bring a much higher rate of return than a solution that ac
        • Here's why I don't agree with you:

          As an investor, I would not want a cure for Aids... or a cure for Cancer. (for example)

          As an investor WITH AIDS, I would want a cure for AIDS.

          As an investor with relatives WITH AIDS, I would want a cure for AIDS.

          As a member of the public with some money that can be pooled in various charitable uses, I would want a cure for AIDS.

          I think if the public cares enough to vote dollars out of people's pockets for a given cause, then they care enough that they would dona

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          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
          • Did you or did you not see in my first post where I talked about breast cancer charities?

            Yes. And, I'm not trying to do a point-counter point discussion. I think that there is too much overlap for that... and, I'm not up to it.

            I do see merit in your ideas, I also see merit in my own. I don't think either would work. Mainly because they aren't flexible enough. I tried to allude to that with my last paragraph.

            Is it moral for you to insist that your way is the only way and use the threat of force to take
      • The Logic of Collective Action [amazon.com]. Whose basic thesis you can find outlined here [about.com]. (The book does a far better job though.)

        Believe it or not, the fact is that public goods are chronically underfunded. Flawed as government may be, there is no real question that in many areas government intervention is clearly a net positive good. (It is also clear that in other areas government intervention is negative, particularly when small groups manage to succeed in regulatory capture.)

        One of the areas where gover