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Friday March 15, 2002
05:51 AM

Data Munging with Perl ripoff in Python

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  • Heh! Well they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :)

    Wonder if it had anything to do with this post [python.org] from a Python mailing list.

  • One wonder at what point Python will find some richer and more nuanced way to define itself other than just 'like Perl, but not Perl'.
    • One wonder at what point Python will find some richer and more nuanced way to define itself other than just 'like Perl, but not Perl'.

      I do not exagerrate, nor do I say this for humorous effect: Of all the Python programmers I have known, not one could explain why they like the language without first defining it in terms of some feature of Perl that they did not like. I know no Python programmers on a personal level who are not in fact disgruntled ex-Perl-programmers.

      --rjray

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      --rjray

    • You say that like it's a bad thing. We can't define Perl 6 without saying it's "like Perl 5 but not Perl 5". There's nothing wrong with trying to do better.

      There's a famous quote of Larry's along the lines of "it's like sed, but better. Like awk, but better. Like shell, but better. Like C, but better. ...."

      --Nat

      • You say that like it's a bad thing. We can't define Perl 6 without saying it's "like Perl 5 but not Perl 5".

        Um, it's like Perl5, but the outdated ideas that go back to Perl1 are out the window.

        I have to agree with torgox. A few pythonistas describe Python in terms of it's merits. A large number of them describe python as a cool language that doesn't have Perl's deficiencies. That's like describing a Volvo as not having the Edsel's push-button steering, nor the Pinto's exploding gas tank, nor the

        • cool language that doesn't have Perl's deficiencies.

          And yet, the Python module system is so ad-hoc. Or it was, last I looked. They didn't think CPAN was a deficiency, did they?

          --
          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
          • By the way, that's not meant as a flame against Python. I'm just looking for a utopian module system. I'm starting to think it's a lot like C shared libraries, CPAN, CPAN.pm, and apt-get. Only without the deficiencies.

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            J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers