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Monday May 19, 2003
09:27 PM

Family Tree of Programming Languages

[ #12318 ]
This poster of languages seems a little fictitious when it comes to our own favourite. No Perl 5? Ruby isn't descended from Perl? Perl's not descended from C?

--Nat

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  • "A hardware description language"?
    But yes, the chart seems to be somewhat, err, tilted.
  • They missed the sed -> Perl, Smalltalk -> [Ruby, Perl] (not sure if that's direct though), CLU -> Ruby and am I right in not seeing Logo or Turtle Graphics *anywhere*?

    I like that Perl 1.00 is considered to be "Active, Thousands of Users".
    • I.Other Languages.

      Turtle Graphics is there, the Logo line branches off LISP quite early.

      Majority of Lisp and Fortran dialects ignored; Watfor, Watfiv. Scheme fed back into CL. Isn't ML related to Lisp and Haskell? Prolog was spawned by Lisp.

      Addendum on PL/1: it included features of Lisp with Cobol and Fortran, with the syntax of Algol.

      Ruby folks seem to say Ruby is Perl with SmallTalks real-OO, with Python and Lisp mixed in to.

      Python specifically names Perl as Anti-influence and claims Lisp heritage.

      P

      --
      Bill
      # I had a sig when sigs were cool
      use Sig;
      • Point of order. Ruby existed before Perl 5, though it was late 1995 before Matz publicly released it. He also claims Python influences.

        I knew Python then. But I didn't like it, because I didn't think it was a true object-oriented language. OO features are appeared to be add-on to the language.
        --Matz [nagaokaut.ac.jp]

        I'd make it more like (Python 1, Perl4, Smalltalk) -> Ruby though I'm not even sure Matz knew much Smalltalk at the time.

  • ...is to be most polite, indeed.

    Besides the question of omissions and missing/questionable lines of heritage, there are also such "forward-looking" statements as referring to C#'s staying power. Indeed, referring to either C# or Java as "classic" seems a little presumptious.

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    --rjray