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Sunday October 20, 2002
10:17 PM

BeOS is still king

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I have to laugh whenever some "new" technology gets added to the *nix world and all the Lino-nuts go, "ooh, ahh", without a clue that BeOS already had it 4 years ago, if not sooner. In some cases, BeOS *still* does it better - journalling, SMP, attributes; but I digress.

Tonight I read on slashdot that they've improved XFree86 so that you can change the refresh rate of each screen of an X display on the fly. Yep, BeOS has been able to do this* since I've owned it. Number of times I've actually used that ability? Once, just to see it.

To be fair, you can also rotate and reflect each screen. Oh, yeah; that's useful.

*I realize that BeOS doesn't run X. I mean, the ability to use different refresh rates (and resolutions) within each workspace.

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  • While at O'Reilly, I got to play with a BeBox. I enjoyed watching the CPU LED monitors. Since I do a lot of hard drive recording, I'm particularly sad that BeOS didn't catch on. No one wanted to write apps for it. I'm one of those 'Lino-nuts' and I'm public confess my profound disappointment at the developement speed of multimedia on Linux.

    For typical desktop things I find Linux readily usable. Unforuntately for more specialized desktop apps like audio/MIDI recording, Linux isn't even where MacOS X let al

  • While I also found BeOS nice and I'm sad that it didn't survive (businesswise), saying that "only now UNIX is catching on with BeOS (featurewise)" is a bit parochial, to say the least... "What do you mean by UNIX, white man?" That a particular strain of Linux/BSD gains a feature doesn't mean that only know "UNIX as a whole" (whatever that means) gains a feature. SMP? Been there for I think decades, certainly for more than a decade. Journaling (data or metadata or both)? Been there for more than a deca

    • Ok, let's talk just about Linux specifically.

      SMP? Been there for I think decades, certainly for more than a decade

      It wasn't until Mandrake 7.2 that I could even get Linux to recognize my second CPU. Given that BeOS had SMP support in mind from day 1, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that their implementation is at least as good as, and probably better than, Linux SMP support. I'm not sure where windows is at these days - NT was at 80% of up to 4 cpu's (max) last I heard.

      Journaling (data or

      • That sounds better, I'm fine with taking shots at Linux geeks :-) Somehow, oddly (since they seem to think of themselves as tecnoliterati), they are often quite ignorant of technological advancements existing or happening anywhere outside of Linux... somewhat reminiscent of Windows users, actually.

        (Of course, I'm a BSD-head, so take my grumpiness about "Linux freaks" with appropriate amounts of chlorides.)

        Which kind of journaling BeFS had/has? I've packed away my BeFS book by Giampaolo or I would

        • since they seem to think of themselves as tecnoliterati

          Dear Jarkko,

          Please never, ever, ever, even in your most frothy, vitrolic post use the word tecnoliterati again.

          I need the vapors...

          • Just to clarify I of course didn't refer to Linux geeks as the wannabe-literati of high-beat or trance music, with or without an aitch :-)
          • What do you mean, you need the vapors? I think you can probably find "Turning Japanese" on gnutella... ;-)
            • A. I like the Vapors. They rock.

              B. It took me three re-reads to correctly reading 'Turning' and not 'Turing'. Sad, sad day.

        • Which kind of journaling BeFS had/has? I've packed away my BeFS book by Giampaolo or I would check myself... Data, metadata, both, something else?

          I think it's metadata, but I don't know the nitty-gritty details. Here's an interesting (if older) article that may also be of interest to you:

          http://www.byte.com/documents/s=620/byt20010531s0001/index.htm

          OS X users should be happy to have Giampaolo in their camp at least.

  • To be fair, you can also rotate and reflect each screen. Oh, yeah; that's useful. It is useful. Reflection in particular is useful when you want to project onto a screen from the rear. I can imagine rotation would be useful if you wanted to set your monitor on its side, for whatever reason.