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Monday March 22, 2004
05:03 AM

Random thoughts at 3am

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I woke up at 2:30am. It's 3am now, and I can't sleep. So, here's a slightly random thought brought on by the whole gay marriage issue.

If homosexuality is genetic (as I believe that it largely is) and we, the planet, pursue a policy of eugenics, does that mean that homosexuality will eventually be eradicated?

I mean, if we reach a point where we can "design" our children (ok, I'm talking far future here), and you could pick height, weight, hair color and sexual orientation...aren't you going to pick "straight" every time?

Maybe not. I dunno. That's why it's a "random thought".

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  • Ignoring the biological basis for homosexuality at the moment, changing the frequency of any gene within the human population is hard. We have long generation times, and any effort to change the frequency of a single gene is going to take longer than any policy is going to be in force.

    Radically changes are possible, say resistance to plague, as anyone sensitive dies- pretty quickly, but deliberately killing millions isn't politically acceptable.

    A confounding problem is that mutation is constantly drip f

    -- "It's not magic, it's work..."
  • I see no evidence why homosexuality would be genetically transmitted (although I don't see no contrary evidence either, I've no opinion on that matter). For example, there is no significant variation in the proportion of homosexuals in various ethnic groups (contrary to,say, the blood phenotype or the shape of the skull).

    On the other hand, homosexuality could be produced, at least in some cases, by some inborn factor, like left-handedness maybe, something that isn't inherited from parents to children. For

    • I see no evidence why homosexuality would be genetically transmitted...

      Visual evidence is often prominent in gay women - broad shoulders, masculine body type in general, including facial features, often a larger body type. This was common in the women I saw at the few gay bars I've been into.

      This isn't true of all women I realize, but the fact that a common set of physical traits correspond to lesbianism is at least a clue. I'm trying not to "stereotype" here, so forgive me if I'm not expressing myse

      • Visual evidence is often prominent in gay women -- probably, but the body of an adult is shaped by a couple of dozen years of hormonal influence and physical activities as well as by genetics; it wouldn't surprise me that the hormonal balance of an homosexual isn't exactly the same than of an heterosexual. (Are there medical studies on this?) Anyway I think there are good chances for a physical (hormonal/genetic) basis to homosexuality, but the point I was questioning is whether this physical basis is actua
  • Get some sleep! :-)
  • Looks like nobody wants to play the game and answer the question asked, so... I'll play.



    First, a story. I had a friend that was (probably still is) bisexual. When we would go to bars or night clubs... he would look around and then... with a smile on his face... proclaim that he had twice as much probablility of getting laid that night as I did.


    Now, in this future scenario where I am choosing traits for my child... I would want to make sure that my child could have children, if desired.

    It is