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Monday October 15, 2001
03:09 AM

Pudge Is Right

[ #993 ]

Xtians do interpret the commandment as "Thou shall not commit murder" instead of "Thou shall not kill". I've seen this argument from them many times. Of course, they're a little reticent to explain exactly how they know when a killing isn't murder as it gives them a convenient get-out clause when they go after someone they don't like.

But let's not let the facts stand in the way of a good joke and contine to enjoy God Angrily Clarifies "Don't Kill" Rule .

Have to say that I also agree with pudge that using these journals for political debate isn't really making the best use of them and I think we should stop.

Unfortunately, this self-imposed censorship, means that I really shouldn't point out to perlguy that he fundamentally misunderstands the British. The kind of Brits that object to the bombings are exactly the same group who would have a party if Buckingham Palace was destroyed - particularly if it was full of the Windsor parasites at the time.


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  • Well, I can't say I'd be dancing in the streets, there's some really nice, irreplaceable art and stuff in there (along with huge piles of tat). But I wouldn't be calling for massive retaliatory strikes. The tabloids would be though.
  • I don't see how this problem is a "Christian" thing. Almost everyone I know draws distinctions between killing and murder. The law certainly does, at least in our country, and in most countries I know of. *shrug*

    • You're right (again!) of course, but the point is that most countries have well defined legal systems that decide whether a particular incident is murder or not. I don't see anything similar in the Bible.

      Or do you mean that when the Bible says "murder", it means "any action that would be considered murder under the legal code of the country in which you perpetrate said act". Seems strange to me that God would delegate such important decisions to "local" government. Particularly in countries like the US whe

      • Well, the Bible -- the New Testament, anyway -- has no well-defined legal system at all. It does, however, have different words with more-or-less clear meanings. See Matthew 5:21-22, where Christ quotes the Commandment (but in Greek). The word used there is phonos, which has a history in contemporary literature (Homer, Diodorus, Simonedes, Aelius Aristedes). It sometimes means "killing with anger as a cause" or "bloody deeds", but the emphasis is always on the fact that this kind of killing was morally
  • I think your overlooking the biggest benefit of having the queen. In the event of The Smiling Git deciding to enter into nuclear war or someother act that would destroy our country because someone called his wife ugly or some other issue he took offence at the Queen has the power to step in and revoke his posistion. She is our safeguard against a dictatorship.
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