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Friday December 13, 2002
04:39 AM

Right here, right now

[ #9433 ]

Most people haven't quite realised yet, but SVG is here. It's not something cool in the distant future (that's SVG 1.2), it's something cool today. I just got the information that in June 2002 the Adobe viewer plugin alone had 77% market penetration (by comparison, Flash MX had 53%). It is now circa five and ten percent higher. On top of this, Microsoft is shipping Office 11 Visio with SVG support.

It looks like it won't be long before we can seriously start wiping off Flash...

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  • Just from looking around, I can't believe that a 77% market penetration figure for SVG is correct, unless your source is applying some serious spin. Incremental penetration I could believe. I've had flash installed for a couple of years, but just now installed SVG support.
    • No, this is actual. The fact is, people often have the SVG viewer but are totally unaware of it. Both Flash and SVG have been measured in the same fashion, according to the actual capacity of a group of people to see content they were presented with.

      When I arrived at this job in August (having been employed in good part for my SVG skills), there was a meeting at which I was asked how soon I thought SVG would have widely available usability. I didn't have the numbers back then, but I nevertheless an


      -- Robin Berjon []

    • Here is some extra information on the topic:

      Through Acrobat alone, ASV currently reaches about 11 million new desktops per month. The data (...) does not include ASV distributed with:

      o Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and other non-Acrobat products (Adobe and others including JASC).

      o ASV distributed with books like 'SVG in 24 Hours' which include a CD with ASV.

      o ASV downloads from or any of the sites that host downloads of ASV in violation of


      -- Robin Berjon []